<div dir="ltr">I will. Thank you for all the information!</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 1:11 PM Dirk Neumann <<a href="mailto:d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de">d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Hi Rich,</div>
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<div>there once was an low value tax exemption for all shipments were the declared value was below 22 EUR. But this was completely removed with the entering into force of the new EU tax reg in March this year. This was done to counteract
the substantial tax evasion observed in e-commerce business with (Southeast) Asia (basically with one specific country).</div>
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<div>Specimens shipped under CN/HS code 9705.29.0000 are exempted from taxes in the EU, and this surely applies also to the UK, as the UK is (at the moment still) tied to via Northern Ireland to the (taxation) requirements of the Single
Market of the EU.</div>
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<div>But mind you: this tax exemption only applies to the 'goods', i.e. the specimens that are shipped. This is not a derogation from value-added taxes! This means that we have observed in the recent past that 'import taxes' where charged
on the shipping costs. In some cases we could successfully claim those costs when mailing FedEx, or UPS (have not observed this with DHL Express so far, more often with UPS) when pointing to the fact that the goods themselves are tax-exempted, and that loanded
research samples are not goods for which value-added taxes can be charged. Onerous emails, but sometimes successful.</div>
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<div>@ Gretchen: you were lucky with the $45! Better avoiding this an reducing this to $1 for above given reasons.<br>
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<div>Hope this further clarifies,</div>
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<div>with best wishes</div>
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<div>Am 02.11.2023 um 17:56 schrieb Richard Rabeler:<br>
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<div>Thanks for the additional details. I remember when shipping specimens was far simpler than it is today.</div>
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<div>When I saw Gretchen's note about using a value of $1/specimen, it reminded me of a problem I once had with a shipment to Great Britain. I also thought $1/specimen was a reasonable value and did so with any international shipments until one was returned
in 2018 with a note that all incoming packages with a value over 15 E were assessed duty. Reducing the value of the package was required to get that shipment to its destination. I suspect that limit still exists????</div>
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<div>Sincerely,</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:04 AM Dirk Neumann <<a href="mailto:d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de" target="_blank">d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Just a brief comment the open question in this excellent response:</div>
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<div>the 9 digits are required for correct entries of your customs brokers into the electronic EU customs system (which requires the full 9 digits for valid entries). Some EU Member States rarely require to give the full 11 digits, i.e. the correct EU reference
to the harmonised code + the additional specific 3 digits that connect to the respective national code /implementation. This may be required if you hand-carry material and have to fill in a proper customs declaration upon arrival at the gateway. But as said,
usually this is not required for normal (postal) shipments. <br>
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<div>To avoid import taxes, it is advisable to term the included material either as
<i>preserved botanic museum material (herbarium sheets)</i> - or <i>preserved zoological museum material</i> (+ description which kind of material), respectively.
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<div>It is definitely worth following Gretchen recommendation to highlight <u>the return</u>, but it is better say return of
<u>loaned scientific museum </u>material + statement for which type of research the material was on loan. A return (of goods) usually requires reference to the original customs export documentation, which in our case is usually not issued (as we don't ship
commercial goods or product samples). <br>
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<div>Hope this further supports.</div>
<div>With best wishes</div>
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<div>Am 31.10.2023 um 20:53 schrieb Meier, Gretchen:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">MU uses <a href="http://eshipglobal.com" target="_blank">
eshipglobal.com</a> and the website will walk you through the process with links to get the correct codes. The harmonized Code I use is 9705.29.0000, for some reason you have to use the full 9 digits, this is the code for natural history collections of various types.
The ECCN code I use is EAR99 - which is 'other'. Even though Herbarium specimens are technically 'goods' they have no commercial value. I always add at least $1 per specimen so if they get lost, I can at least recoup the postage. You'll need to print 2
copies of the address form and three copies of the commercial invoice that go in a clear mailing pouch on the outside. Keep a copy for yourself. I always use FedEx Priority International, if that helps at all. Lastly, because I'm mostly returning loaned
materials, I always put 'return to origin' in one of the first steps of the process.
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 2:00 PM Tim Flynn <<a href="mailto:tflynn@ntbg.org" target="_blank">tflynn@ntbg.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Can anyone advise me on what I will need to include/provide when shipping herbarium specimens to Denmark? I know that I will include a customs declaration and have requested the EORI of the receiving museum (C). Is anything else needed? Any help
would be greatly appreciated.
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