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<p class="MsoNormal">Echoing Doug’s remarks here -- I don’t know if I think collections management sensu lato fits neatly into either bin. What I do consider it, unequivocally, is a
<i>vocation </i>in the Weberian sense. I think most collections people feel strongly that the work they do is a calling, and that they can’t imagine themselves doing anything else, whatever their background is.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I do not think the field is nearly as mobile as any trade, nor do I think institutions have consistent enough practices that might permit the kind of professional mobility that trades do.
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<p class="MsoNormal">That being said, I think collections management could definitely benefit from the organization that the trades have displayed.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t really know of any other profession than the management of natural history collections that requires as broad of a skill set, or has as varied a set of responsibilities. On any given day, collection managers might be doing work
that is decidedly blue collar (carrying out day-to-day operations of a warehouse, testing materials, physically moving and cataloguing inventory, packing objects for shipments, etc), to decidedly white-collar / academic (managing complex relational databases,
identifying species, providing authoritative scientific information to the public, government agencies, etc.)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In many ways I feel like CMs are like engineers, in that they are usually professionals with a degree credential that apply scientific concepts to practical problems, and are to some degree autonomous agents that can work anywhere, but
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, February 23, 2024 at 12:43 PM<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] [EXTERN] Collection management: trade or profession?</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Hi Paul, depends on how you understand Collection Management. Here in Germany, a US Collection Manager would be the Collection Technician. For
this education, there are either specific schools, like the one that Senckenberg in Frankfurt runs.
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<p class="MsoNormal">depends on how you understand Collection Management.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here in Germany, a US Collection Manager would be the Collection Technician. For this education, there are either specific schools, like the one that
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Senckenberg in Frankfurt runs</a>. Here, you start in a trade and graduate after two years as a technical staff. This is very similar as the education (school where you graduate) as a biological technical assistant (BTA), or - similarly, chemical technical
assistant. (<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/web.arbeitsagentur.de/berufenet/beruf/6315__;!!KGKeukY!1So_d4GY6KGrjW9q79nfDhTuav-3eaDbzx2r5PNEeXs1ggcEZ3QjgKme1hf372gZmM40-mS_c_-4p5lHqbbvakyelA$">BTA profile link</a>).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That is something between a trade and university education, but a proper profession (Berufsausbildung - knowing that you get along with the German terms). The other option would be a bachelor in biology would theoretically have the same
level of education, but of course is less skilled at the start of the career.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But this is typically not was is understood here as collection management. This is a position that is situated between curators and technical staff, and would have a more "active" management component. In the UK, the collection managers
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<p class="MsoNormal">I assume you are asking for the person that technically runs a collection and in responsible for it maintenance and management?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My answer would be it can be both.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Interesting question!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="elementtoproof">Is collection management a trade or a profession? What's the difference?</span><br>
<span class="elementtoproof">- A trade begins with learning, practice and experience (an apprenticeship). Apprentices pass tests and become journeymen; they then produce a masterpiece (the origin of the term, nothing to do with the Mona Lisa) and gain master's
certification and sometimes membership of a guild, which allows them to take their own apprentices and renew the cycle in their place of work. </span><br>
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