<div dir="ltr">Trades in the US don't generally require a bachelor's degree, but are regulated, and often do require certifications based on State law. I agree with Douglas Yanega that a trade is also a profession, but there are professions that require at least a bachelor's degree in a related field (and some universities are now offering Collections Management as a degree itself). I think of Collections Management as a specialization that falls into the profession category. Having a degree in art history qualifies you to become a specialist in art collections, for instance. I think of myself as a biologist who specializes in museum collections, rather than a biologist who specializes in field research.<br><br>Collection Technician to me is the same as a Curatorial Assistant. I would hire someone without a BS to this position. Can a Curatorial Assistant without a BS move up to the position of Collections Manager? With enough experience, I would think yes. But that doesn't make it a trade. <br><br>I do not believe that a Collections Manager requires a MS or PhD, unless the institution is also hiring that person as a researcher. <br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:42 AM Dirk Neumann <<a href="mailto:d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de">d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div>depends on how you understand Collection Management.</div>
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<div>Here in Germany, a US Collection Manager would be the Collection Technician. For this education, there are either specific schools, like the one that
<a href="https://www.senckenberg.de/de/karriere/lehre-und-ausbildung/" target="_blank">Senckenberg in Frankfurt runs</a>. Here, you start in a trade and graduate after two years as a technical staff. This is very similar as the education (school where you graduate) as a biological
technical assistant (BTA), or - similarly, chemical technical assistant. (<a href="https://web.arbeitsagentur.de/berufenet/beruf/6315" target="_blank">BTA profile link</a>).</div>
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<div>That is something between a trade and university education, but a proper profession (Berufsausbildung - knowing that you get along with the German terms). The other option would be a bachelor in biology would theoretically have
the same level of education, but of course is less skilled at the start of the career.</div>
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<div>But this is typically not was is understood here as collection management. This is a position that is situated between curators and technical staff, and would have a more "active" management component. In the UK, the collection
managers are the Curators, while the traditional curators are research scientists (if these are still hired).<br>
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<div>I assume you are asking for the person that technically runs a collection and in responsible for it maintenance and management?</div>
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<div>My answer would be it can be both.</div>
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<div>Interesting question!</div>
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<div><span style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Is collection management a trade or a profession? What's the difference?<br>
- A trade begins with learning, practice and experience (an apprenticeship). Apprentices pass tests and become journeymen; they then produce a masterpiece (the origin of the term, nothing to do with the Mona Lisa) and gain master's certification and sometimes
membership of a guild, which allows them to take their own apprentices and renew the cycle in their place of work. <br>
- A profession begins with study and examinations. Practice with real clients can only begin once both have been completed (think: lawyers; surgeons; accountants). A period of internship or further training is usual, but a professional qualification (MD, JD,
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at master rank, but a partially-completed apprenticeship might not be accepted outside the workplace in which it was created. There is no rank above master, and senior institutional management tends to be taken from the ranks of professionals. </span></div>
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the trades are often more inclusive than the professions (though unions can and do bias hiring somewhat). Master tradespeople can make more money than at least junior professionals, and are arguably more important to the running of infrastructure-based institutions
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