<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style=""><p class="MsoNormal" style=""><font size="4">An alternative to Delta might be Great Lakes Stainless Steel. We had 1000 tanks made for our collections facility. They have been performing very well for over a decade. This is from a previous post:</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"><img width="72" height="72" align="left" hspace="12" alt="Description: New Lighthouse"><u></u><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Graphite Light";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Michael DeBruyn<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><b><i><u><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Graphite Light";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span class="gmail-il">Great</span> <span class="gmail-il">Lakes</span> <span class="gmail-il">Stainless</span>, Inc.</span></u></i></b><b><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Graphite Light";color:rgb(31,73,125)"> - <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX4z4G_0I70" target="_blank">2010 Business of the Year </a>- <a href="http://www.theticker.tc/story/local-companies-nab-state-honors" target="_blank">2011 Top 50 Companies to Watch</a><u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Graphite Light";color:rgb(31,73,125)">1305 Stepke Ct</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(31,73,125)">▪</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Graphite Light";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Traverse City, MI 49685</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(31,73,125)">▪</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Graphite Light";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Ph. 231-943-7648 x109</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(31,73,125)">▪</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Graphite Light";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Fax 231-943-5058<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><i><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Custom Design - Professional Service - Outstanding Quality<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><i><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://www.greatlakesstainless.com/" target="_blank">www.greatlakesstainless.com</a></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:large"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:large">This was the basic design.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:large">We had 18 gallon and 35 gallon tanks made. We also had tank stands made as these sit on compact shelving units and are retrieved by forklift:</span><span style="font-size:large"><br></span></p><div style="font-size:small"><img src="cid:ii_kd68xe8s1" alt="image.png" width="562" height="379" class="gmail-CToWUd gmail-a6T" tabindex="0" style="cursor: pointer; outline: 0px;"><br></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:large"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><br></p><div style="font-size:small"><img src="cid:ii_kd691gvs2" alt="image.png" width="562" height="374" class="gmail-CToWUd gmail-a6T" tabindex="0" style="cursor: pointer; outline: 0px;"><br></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:large"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:large"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:large">The quality of construction was excellent including welding and spot welding. The seals are airtight to the point of creating an internal vacuum seal. The latches are heavy duty. The customer service was excellent. (They were happy to address any issues that arose - polishing rough spots, etc.).</span></p><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div>Greg Schneider<br>Division of Reptiles and Amphibians<br></div><div>Museum of Zoology</div><div>Research Museums Center</div><div>3600 Varsity Drive<br>University of Michigan<br></div><div>Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108</div><div><p style="margin:0px"><a value="+17347630740" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">734 647 1927 </a></p></div></div><div style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:navy"><a href="mailto:ges@umich.edu" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">ges@umich.edu</a></span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><img border="0" width="96" height="97" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CD6BEB.4D6147C0" alt="Description: Description: logocolor"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://www.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/rep_amph/index.html" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">www.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/rep_amph/index.html</a></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 9:36 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu">abentley@ku.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg3680340444274339892">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hi Amy<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Here in the US a large number of collections use stainless steel tanks constructed and sold by Delta Designs. See attached. There are two main sizes of tank but they will also make custom tanks to any dimensions.
The tanks come with an alcohol resistant gasket that forms a very effective seal and prevents evaporation. The seal does break down over time (many, many years) but replacement material is easy to source and install. A metal wheeled dolly is sold separately
that allows for effective movement of tanks if necessary. Delta also sells a custom tank rack that will allow stacking of tanks in confined spaces. The tanks slide out for easy access and removal if necessary.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">We have been using these in our collections (in many different iterations and styles) over more than 25 years and have been very happy with them. With the price of steel ever increasing, these tanks are now
fairly expensive but worth it in my view given the great storage environment they provide for large wet specimens. The pricing attached is from 2015 so not reliable but will give you an idea. I have no idea how much shipping would cost you but maybe you
can find someone in Ireland to make similar.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">The only alternative we have used is polycarbonate pails sold by University Products, but have moved away from them as they were found to crack and leak over time and did not seal very well as they did not
have a gasket. University Products has since removed them from their catalog while they re-evaluate their effectiveness with the supplier.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hope that helps<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Andy<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11pt">Dyche Hall<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m looking into optimising large specimen storage in the wet collection of my institution. At present, large specimens are stored in a variety of stainless-steel tanks ranging in volume from 100-650L. About half of the tanks were purchased
from and purpose built by an Irish Steel supplier in the mid-1990s. To date, the tanks are holding up well, but their lack of seal means their topping up regime is ongoing and tiring!
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could I ask the collective Natural History group for their recommendations for large specimens’ containers or cautionary advice? It would be very helpful if you could share your experience with sealants. For context, I’ve consulted the
books Fluid Preservation: A Comprehensive Reference and Best Practices in the Preservation and Management of Fluid-Preserved Biological Collections. If I’ve missed something within them feel free to point it out.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please reply off list to <a href="mailto:ageraghty@museum.ie" target="_blank">
ageraghty@museum.ie</a> and tanks in advance for any help,<br>
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