<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I bought this one from Grainger:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><img src="cid:ii_lv5cv8uz1" alt="image.png" width="699" height="238" style="margin-right: 0px;"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div>Greg Schneider<br>Division of Reptiles and Amphibians<br></div><div>Museum of Zoology</div><div>Research Museums Center</div><div>3600 Varsity Drive<br>University of Michigan<br></div><div>Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108</div><div><p style="margin:0px"><a value="+17347630740" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">734 647 1927 </a></p></div></div><div style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><p style="margin:0px"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:navy"><a href="mailto:ges@umich.edu" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">ges@umich.edu</a></span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><img border="0" width="96" height="97" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CD6BEB.4D6147C0" alt="Description: Description: logocolor"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://www.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/rep_amph/index.html" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">www.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/rep_amph/index.html</a></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:40 AM Shoobs, Nate <<a href="mailto:shoobs.1@osu.edu">shoobs.1@osu.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-8696802829926193712">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hey all,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">4 people responded to me sending links to rotary drum pumps, and 3 responded with links to electric pumps. The people using electric pumps have been using them for a while, and with no reported issues. Same with the rotary pumps.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All of the electric pumps linked were at least nominally designed to pump “fuel” and/or ethanol. While I do try to be more careful with 95%, I doubt that the electric pumps designed to pump gasoline are a significant risk over a manual
pump that might generate sparks via static electricity or heat via friction. I don’t think our fire marshal would care either way (Columbus fire code, or at least its enforcement, is pretty lax).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think I will try a rotary pump because they’re cheaper and probably longer-lasting because of their simple mechanism.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks everyone!<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-Nate<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(187,0,0);background:white">Nathaniel F. Shoobs</span></b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br>
Curator of Mollusks<br>
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Museum of Biological Diversity, 1315 Kinnear Rd, Columbus, OH 43212<br>
614-688-1342 (Office)<br>
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://mbd.osu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,99,193);background:white">mbd.osu.edu</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="color:black">Bentley, Andrew Charles <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 6:06</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Shoobs, Nate <<a href="mailto:shoobs.1@osu.edu" target="_blank">shoobs.1@osu.edu</a>>, <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: Electric 55 Gallon Drum Pumps?</span><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">Although now that I say that I just came across this that may work: https:</span><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:white"> </span><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">//www.</span><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:white"> </span><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">zoro.</span><span style="font-size:1pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:white"> </span><span style="font-size:1pt;color:white">com/tera-pump-ethanolmethanolbrake-cleaner-drum-pump-tredrume-ch/i/G403536219/
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<p class="MsoNormal">Although now that I say that I just came across this that may work:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.zoro.com/tera-pump-ethanolmethanolbrake-cleaner-drum-pump-tredrume-ch/i/G403536219/__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt67zWQh5g$" target="_blank">https://www.zoro.com/tera-pump-ethanolmethanolbrake-cleaner-drum-pump-tredrume-ch/i/G403536219/</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Andy</p>
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Andy Bentley<br>
Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ORCID: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt6JkR4Mbw$" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt4J-oVp_A$" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Bentley, Andrew Charles
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 17, 2024 5:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shoobs, Nate <<a href="mailto:shoobs.1@osu.edu" target="_blank">shoobs.1@osu.edu</a>>; <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Electric 55 Gallon Drum Pumps?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Nate</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are very few electric drum pumps that are rated for flammable materials for obvious reasons (electricity and flames don’t mix). In order to make them flammable proof they are made a lot more expensive and so we have never gone that
route. We have been using one of these for some time and, although manual, it does a great job and gets right down to the last dregs.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.uline.com/BL_2095/FM-Approved-Rotary-Drum-Pump__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt6TW1mQ-A$" target="_blank">https://www.uline.com/BL_2095/FM-Approved-Rotary-Drum-Pump</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They do also have electric drum pumps at Uline but I would check to ensure compatibility with 95% ethanol</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.uline.com/BL_769/Electric-Drum-Pumps__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt7Sgm8QzA$" target="_blank">https://www.uline.com/BL_769/Electric-Drum-Pumps</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Andy</p>
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Andy Bentley<br>
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University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Dyche Hall<br>
<span class="m_-8696802829926193712MsoHyperlink"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">1345 Jayhawk Boulevard</span></span><br>
<span class="m_-8696802829926193712MsoHyperlink"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561</span></span><br>
<span class="m_-8696802829926193712MsoHyperlink"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">USA</span></span><br>
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Tel: </span><a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-3863" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">(785) 864-3863</span></a><span lang="EN-AU"><br>
Fax: </span><a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">(785) 864-5335</span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> <br>
Email: </span><a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">abentley@ku.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">ORCID: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt6JkR4Mbw$" target="_blank">
<span style="color:rgb(5,99,193);background:white">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258</span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt4J-oVp_A$" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</span></a></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shoobs, Nate<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 16, 2024 2:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Electric 55 Gallon Drum Pumps?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We buy our ethanol in 55 gallon drums at 95% concentration, which we then dilute down to 70~75% in smaller carboys. To transfer the ethanol we have thus far just been using a manual siphon pump, but are not totally satisfied with it.
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<p class="MsoNormal">The issue is that as we get below 25 gallons remaining, it becomes difficult for students to do the pumping (as the level in the drum approaches the level of the fill line in the carboys). Most of my students are not strong enough to lift
the drums at ¼ to ½ full, so usually, I have to assist them when mixing the latter half of every drum. This is a huge time suck, so I’m looking for a better alternative.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Does anyone out there use an electric pump for 55 gallon drums?</b> I see many options online on amazon etc, but a lot of them have poor reviews. Our ethanol storage room has outlets, so it doesn’t need to be battery operated.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nate</p>
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Curator of Mollusks<br>
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Museum of Biological Diversity, 1315 Kinnear Rd, Columbus, OH 43212<br>
614-688-1342 (Office)<br>
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://mbd.osu.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(5,99,193);background:white">mbd.osu.edu</span></a></span></p>
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