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Thank you very much for your reply. What you have described in your email is exactly what we are experiencing with the cardboard boxes. I agree with you, the
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 19, 2024 10:41 AM<br>
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We use these boxes for our cryo collections - <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/cryoboxes/15350107B__;!!DZ3fjg!42RhPeS5kipBO0pt8bofWmurl5c72Pd_I1xuDEQYgSyQC2tZqZGP6-SjYNG7lDA1tjT2qIKWfX2W8UBl6IU$" id="LPlnk490319">
https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/cryoboxes/15350107B</a>.  They are a little more expensive than cardboard but well worth the investment in my view.</div>
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In my experience cardboard does not stand up to the rigors of cryo-preservation.  The freeze thaw cycles that these boxes are subjected to tend to deteriorate the cardboard over time making them disintegrate.  We have used these in the past with bad results
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https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/fisherbrand-cryo-freezer-boxes-12/03395464</a>.  They indicate that they have a "moisture-repellent coating" but this does not stand up over time.</div>
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I am currently looking to buy around 200 cryovial boxes made of polycarbonate. We have been using Fisherbrand white fiberboard boxes (5 x 5 x 2 inches - L x W x H) with 81 cell dividers for 1.5 ml, but these boxes tend to deteriorate over time. Can anyone suggest
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