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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Thank you, Verity, for your help. I can try the technique you recommended on the larger bones, but it’s difficult to apply to smaller
bones, like those of the hand and vertebrae. I’ll give it a try and see the results. Thanks again for your help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt">Simon, OdorXit sounds like a good option, but I think it might be a bit hard to find here in Europe.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Fecha: </b>martes, 12 de noviembre de 2024, 14:15<br>
<b>Para: </b>Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud@gmail.com><br>
<b>Asunto: </b>RE: [Nhcoll-l] Skeleton preservation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">HI Sergio</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">If you don’t mind doing some minor destructive work to the bones, you can always drill the bones with a small bit (using a Dremel or something similar) near the ends and re-soak them in an ammonia
solution, that will help release some of the inner oils and fats a little faster. Just a hole at either end might be sufficient. But its not uncommon for us to have to soak large mammal bones for months to get them satisfactorily degreased. A 20% or lower
solution shouldn’t damage them, I haven’t seen any evidence of that here in our collection.
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Verity</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sergio Montagud<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Kairo,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Thank you for your response. The skeleton is not from a reptile; it’s from an Asiatic lion. The bones appear to be very white and somewhat with fat (I’ve attached a picture), but the smell is too strong to place them in the preservation room. Currently, all
the pieces are outside, waiting for the odor to dissipate. I wonder if there is a product that could eliminate the smell, such as ammonia, but after applying (immersion) it for seven consecutive days, I haven’t achieved good results, and I don’t want to risk
degrading the bones with chemicals.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sergio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Kairo Z <<a href="mailto:hezhu1@gmail.com">hezhu1@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Fecha: </b>viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 17:08<br>
<b>Para: </b>Sergio Montagud <<a href="mailto:sergio.montagud@gmail.com">sergio.montagud@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Asunto: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] Skeleton preservation</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Can you take some pictures of them? Snakes in general do not tend to have a lot of fat in the bone. So I'm wondering it may be due to something else like moisture, or a past preparation technique. Is there any staining?<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Fri, Nov 8, 2024, 6:06 AM Sergio Montagud <<a href="mailto:sergio.montagud@gmail.com">sergio.montagud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Good morning,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">This is a query for those working in skeleton preservation. We have some recently acquired, disarticulated specimens prepared by different taxidermists. The issue is that some of them, especially the larger ones, still emit a very unpleasant
odor that we haven’t been able to remove, even by soaking them in water with ammonia. Is there an effective and proven method for eliminating this bad smell from the bones, which I assume is caused by residual fat still trapped in them?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Thank you very much.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Sergio Montagud<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Sergio Montagud Alario<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>e-mail: <span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:sergio.montagud@uv.es" target="_blank"><span lang="ES-TRAD">sergio.montagud@uv.es</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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