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<p class="MsoNormal">Non-CITES dead invertebrates (or specimens if you want to have it broader) for non-commercial research<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not sure if it matters whether we get the legal stuff right. The deregulators will have to try to get it right. With this government, I am not sure that anybody can predict what is “right”. We just should make sure that we avoid bad unintended
consequences, but I think with the above wording, most of those would be avoided.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 23, 2025 2:00 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ECN-L] USFWS 3-177 - deregulation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mike Ivie talked about National Park Specimens and I outlined a game plan last year. I suspect no one followed up on it. I would but I’m engaged in several other projects no one is interested in and didn’t have time. (I did email some people
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If we actually knew what we were talking about, it would help. Again, I would suggest that we all agree, we are scientists, not lawyers. We need to consult a professional and not pretend we know what we are talking about. <br>
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Concerning USFWS 3-177, we need to proceed cautiously. Our view is dead invertebrates. What about tigers?
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If we suggested anything, it would probably be best to state NON-CITES INVERTEBRATES often. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See how I'm pretending that I know something?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Frank T. Krell <<a href="mailto:Frank.Krell@dmns.org" target="_blank">Frank.Krell@dmns.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 23, 2025 2:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ECN-L@ecnweb.org" target="_blank">ECN-L@ecnweb.org</a> <<a href="mailto:ECN-L@ecnweb.org" target="_blank">ECN-L@ecnweb.org</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ECN-L] USFWS 3-177 - deregulation?</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Yes, if we can get anything useful out of this government, then some deregulatory measures would be the most likely. It would be great if many of us could submit a 3-177 deregulation idea – if you agree that it should be deregulated or improved for scientific,
non-commercial specimens.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Frank<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Phone 720.308.0241</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> 'Derek Sikes' via ECN-L <<a href="mailto:ECN-L@ecnweb.org" target="_blank">ECN-L@ecnweb.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 23, 2025 1:37 PM<br>
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<p>Just noticed this: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.regulations.gov/__;!!DZ3fjg!82Rt1KGE6qmLbASNIHfdJRFTi7H35V8Q9zMOHc46gaCmn-79v_ETBfezJDVuoPjtRXhNhQmkWIL9o8_2Jifqgn06$" target="_blank">
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<p>Perhaps now is the time to remove or at least improve the USFWS 3-177 process.<o:p></o:p></p>
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