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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Emmaleigh,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I agree with Andy. We also routinely loan skeletal specimens, occasionally for the purpose of CT or microCT. We have also collaborated to have the CT full body scan of multiple specimens done locally,
if the researcher found it more cost-effective to make a short trip to ROM. The only problematic aspect I could see in a loan of material is if we only had a singleton or a couple specimens of the species in question, if they represented type material, or
if the species in question fell under the auspices of CITES, ESA etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If these latter factors were problematic, we might recommend doing the scans locally, but otherwise could/would facilitate a loan.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">That said, it is becoming increasingly difficult to navigate the ever-changing requirements of customs and border security in order to ship biological material/objects, but this usually just means
obtaining the necessary permits, providing attestation statements or zoosanitation certificates, and contacting respective border agencies and/or the branch of any given courier (DHL, FedEx for example) that deals with wildlife or botanical shipments to manage
the routing and inspecition of the shipment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It is sometimes tedious, but almost always doable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hope this helps, <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jacqui<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Confederacy, and the Anishinaabek Nation, which includes the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nation, since time immemorial to today.<br>
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</span><span lang="ES" style="font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Le ROM reconnaît que le Musée est situé sur les terres ancestrales des Wendats, de la Confédération des Haudenosaunee et de la Nation Anishinabek,
y compris la Première Nation des Mississaugas de Credit, et qu’ils occupent ces terres depuis la nuit des temps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bentley, Andrew Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> July 7, 2025 5:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Emmaleigh Grady <gradye1997@gmail.com>; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice about the Use of Natural History Collections in Dissertation Project<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Hi Emmaleigh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Not sure what the issue is. We routinely loan specimens to researchers for non-destructive hypothesis testing, research projects, and scanning in both university and hospital CT scanners. Not
sure what the rationale of the collection in question was in denying your request but I would think this would be a one off and you may have better luck with other collections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Andy Bentley<br>
Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="elementtoproof">Dyche Hall<br>
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
USA<br>
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Tel: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-3863" target="_blank">(785) 864-3863</a><br>
Fax: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" target="_blank">(785) 864-5335</a> <br>
Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="elementtoproof">ORCID: <span style="color:#494A4C;background:white"><a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="elementtoproof"><a href="http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/" target="_blank">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>
on behalf of Emmaleigh Grady <<a href="mailto:gradye1997@gmail.com">gradye1997@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 7, 2025 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Advice about the Use of Natural History Collections in Dissertation Project</span>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">Hello, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">My name is Emmaleigh Grady and I am a PhD student at Texas A&M University studying biological anthropology. I am currently entering the data collection stage of my dissertation, but have run
into an issue related to the use of natural history collections. A mentor of mine suggested reaching out to this listserv to see if any members might be willing to work with me or could offer advice. I thank you in advance for any help you can give. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">For my project, I aim to create an expanded and improved ecometric protocol based on bovid dental metrics and apply it to South African hominin sites. The first step in this project involves
creating the ecometric model using modern African bovid specimens. Several of the metrics in my protocol will be measured with calipers, but an accurate crown height measurement for a hypsodonty index requires looking inside of the bone. I have considered
many avenues for getting this image (medical, veterinary, dental portable x-ray machines, micro-CT scanners), but it seems the most efficient and cost effective method for obtaining 2-D images of many specimens quicky would be a full body CT scanner at a nearby
hospital. The idea would be to place several specimens on the bed at a time and capture them all at once. Unfortunately, this would involve removing specimens from collections, and therein lies the issue. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">This summer I secured funding for a pilot project to solidify this methodology to inform dissertation funding requests, but the museum I had approached wasn’t able to work with me. It is extremely
important for me to conduct a pilot study to ensure the method is appropriate, functional, and to the practicalities surrounding it for planning purposes. Fortunately for a pilot study, I could accept a a sample size smaller than needed for dissertation and
I would only require modern species. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">As an biological anthropologist with a special interest in paleoanthropology I am very aware of the importance of natural history collections that they are irreplaceable. I have experience in
several museums working with specimens of variable age, rarity, and fragility. I say this to emphasize that I understand the responsibility and care required to perform this project. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">As a young researcher I am just beginning to learn about the norms and limitations of working with institutions. Though my advisor and myself think this is a doable project, I wanted to reach
out to the collections community before it became too late to pivot if needed. Again, I thank you and appreciate any help or advice you can give me. Also, feel free to reach out if you have any questions about the project. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">Have a lovely day,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">Emmaleigh Grady <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">PhD Student at Texas A&M University <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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