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<body style="font: 10pt/normal Segoe UI; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><div class="GroupWiseMessageBody" id="GroupWiseSection_1754370604000_Joachim.Haendel@zns.uni-halle.de_659232D005F00000BEC929790EDC4731_"><div>I am also familiar with high-temperature treatment as an effective method. But to be honest, this procedure gives me stomach ache. Especially when it is used on skulls. The reaction to the heat could cause the cranial sutures to loosen and the teeth to fall out.</div><div><br></div><div>Joachim<br></div><span id="GWSignatureSent" style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; display: block;"><span style="display: block;"><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; display: inline-block; -ms-word-wrap: normal;">
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</font><div><font size="2"><font face="Arial"><span style="color: rgb(148, 148, 148);">Center of Natural Science Collections<br>of the Martin Luther University (ZNS)<br>- Zoological Collection -<br><br>Domplatz 4<br>D-06099 Halle (Saale)<br>Germany<br><br>Phone: +49 345 - 55 26 447<br></span><span style="color: rgb(148, 148, 148);">Email: joachim.haendel@zns.uni-halle.de</span></font></font></div></span></span></span><span style="margin-bottom: 5px; display: block;"><br></span><div class="GroupWiseMessageBody" id="GroupWiseSection_1754362680000_AndersonG@CarnegieMNH.Org"><span class="GroupwiseReplyHeader"><br><br>>>> "Anderson, Gretchen" <AndersonG@CarnegieMNH.Org> schrieb am 05.08.2025 um 04:58:<br></span><div><div>Have you thought about a heat treatment? This is very effective - see Museum Pest Network or Tom Strang’s research on CCI.</div><div><br></div><div>Gretchen Anderson</div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br></div><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">> On Aug 1, 2025, at 1:23 PM, Simon Moore <couteaufin@btinternet.com></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> wrote:</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">> I agree with Katrina for this as the 1,4 (or para) dichloro-benzene does kill off little critters effectively. I used to use it in taxidermy cases and entomology collections until it was banned from use in the UK being an organ-chlorine! It dissipates quite quickly and I find it more effective than naphthalene which was in UK mothballs and can make one feel woozy!</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">> With all good wishes, Simon</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">> Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">> Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">> <a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.natural-history-conservation.com&c=E,1,dePqJnwdTKFKRyyLBcGlJu0Hvbr_5bYWM7Uwg5qFxOy21iLfoVjdgLYGcoE3zdeVreE36YIrqbdbghgBRFWPBTlgIxkCrSVurU4ou9eCnE8,&typo=1">https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.natural-history-conservation.com&c=E,1,dePqJnwdTKFKRyyLBcGlJu0Hvbr_5bYWM7Uwg5qFxOy21iLfoVjdgLYGcoE3zdeVreE36YIrqbdbghgBRFWPBTlgIxkCrSVurU4ou9eCnE8,&typo=1</a></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> On 1 Aug 2025, at 18:12, Jacqueline Miller <jmiller@rom.on.ca></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> wrote:</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Hello Katrina,</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> I would adopt the second option, but I would not advise isoflurane. Instead, try 1,4-Dichlorobenzene (what is used in “mothballs” or toilet bowl deodorant).</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Hope you find this useful.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Jacqui</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Jacqueline Miller, PhD (She/Her/Hers)</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Collections Technician 2 - DNH</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> 100 Queen's Park</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Toronto, ON M5S 2C6</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> 416 586 5769</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> ROM acknowledges that this museum sits on the ancestral lands of the Wendat, the Haudenosaunee Confederacy, and the Anishinaabek Nation, which includes the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nation, since time immemorial to today.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Le ROM reconnaît que le Musée est situé sur les terres ancestrales des Wendats, de la Confédération des Haudenosaunee et de la Nation Anishinabek, y compris la Première Nation des Mississaugas de Credit, et qu’ils occupent ces terres depuis la nuit des temps.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> On Behalf Of Derieg, Katrina</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Sent: August 1, 2025 12:08 PM</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> To: nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Killing dermestids from large cervid skulls</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Some people who received this message don't often get email from katrina.derieg@mso.umt.edu. Learn why this is important</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> [EXTERNAL EMAIL] DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Hi folks,</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> I'm looking for some advice on how to proceed with some large cervid skulls I've got in my bug colony. One is a bull elk with a full rack, the other is a mule deer buck, also with a full rack. I don't have a walk-in freezer and none of my freezers are large enough for these skulls with their racks. The skulls are clean and I need to move them out of the bug colony, but I'm not sure the best way to get rid of any stray bugs.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Options I've considered:</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> •</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Bagging them up with some dry ice (will sublimate fast though, a little pricy)</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> •</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Bagging them up with isoflurane-soaked cotton (maybe not a good use of veterinary-grade drugs)</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> But I am open to suggestions if anyone has dealt with something similar.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Many thanks in advance!</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> -Katrina</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> KATRINA DERIEG (she/her)</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Curator | Museum Collections and Outreach Coordinator</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);">>></span><span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 64);"> Phillip L. 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