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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Adding to Madelaine’s suggestion; at ROM we use Crystal Simple Green as a degreasing agent, it also whitens, depending on concentration and length of immersion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best, Jacqui<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Collections Technician 2  -  DNH <br>
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416 586 5769<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">ROM acknowledges that this museum sits on the ancestral lands of the Wendat, the Haudenosaunee
 Confederacy, and the Anishinaabek Nation, which includes the Mississaugas of the Credit First Nation, since time immemorial to today.<br>
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</span><span lang="ES" style="font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual">Le ROM reconnaît que le Musée est situé sur les terres ancestrales des Wendats, de la Confédération des Haudenosaunee et de la Nation Anishinabek,
 y compris la Première Nation des Mississaugas de Credit, et qu’ils occupent ces terres depuis la nuit des temps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mullon, Madeleine<br>
<b>Sent:</b> August 4, 2025 9:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Derieg, Katrina <katrina.derieg@mso.umt.edu>; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Killing dermestids from large cervid skulls<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:madeleine_mullon@fas.harvard.edu">madeleine_mullon@fas.harvard.edu</a>.
<a href="https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification">Learn why this is important</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Katrina,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">If you are planning to degrease these skulls after the beetles are through with them, putting them straight into the degreasing solution (at the MCZ, we use an ammonia solution, but a surfactant
 degreaser such as dish soap should also work) will also kill any straggler bugs. That said, this is obviously not a solution if the skulls are so large that you are not planning to put them through a degrease/whitening soak, in which case I’d go with what
 others have suggested.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Madeleine Mullon (she/they)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Harvard University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">617-495-2469<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Derieg, Katrina<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 1, 2025 12:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Killing dermestids from large cervid skulls<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Hi folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">I'm looking for some advice on how to proceed with some large cervid skulls I've got in my bug colony. One is a bull elk with a full rack, the other is a mule deer buck, also with a full rack. I don't
 have a walk-in freezer and none of my freezers are large enough for these skulls with their racks. The skulls are clean and I need to move them out of the bug colony, but I'm not sure the best way to get rid of any stray bugs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Options I've considered:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Bagging them up with some dry ice (will sublimate fast though, a little pricy)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span lang="EN-US">Bagging them up with isoflurane-soaked cotton (maybe not a good use of veterinary-grade drugs)<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">But I am open to suggestions if anyone has dealt with something similar.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Many thanks in advance!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">-Katrina<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="elementtoproof"><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow",sans-serif;color:#6F263D">KATRINA DERIEG
</span></i></b><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow",sans-serif;color:#6F263D">(she/her)</span></i></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="elementtoproof"><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow",sans-serif;color:#6F263D;letter-spacing:-.1pt">Curator | Museum Collections and Outreach Coordinator</span></i></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="elementtoproof"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6F263D">Phillip L. Wright Zoological Museum (UMZM)</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="elementtoproof"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6F263D">Health Science 104  |   32 Campus Drive   |   406-243-4743</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="elementtoproof"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6F263D"><a href="mailto:katrina.derieg@umontana.edu">katrina.derieg@umontana.edu</a> |
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<p class="elementtoproof"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow",sans-serif;color:#6F263D;letter-spacing:1.55pt">University of Montana</span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Saints, Sinners, Lovers, and Fools: 300 Years of Flemish Masterworks</a>. Tickets on sale now at
<a href="https://www.rom.on.ca/en ">rom.ca</a>.</p>
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<a href="https://www.rom.on.ca/fr ">rom.ca/fr</a>.</p>
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