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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hey thank you all for this conversation, it is absolutely fantastic and much needed. I really appreciate the resources!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thor Martin Jensen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 7 November 2025 12:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Callomon,Paul <prc44@drexel.edu><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Visitor Attention as a Design Constraint in Digital Collections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you <span style="color:black">- I'll see if I can find it. I found an old NPR interview with Carr about the book that's making me rethink the entire framing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="gmail-whitespace-normal"><span style="color:black">What strikes me is Carr's point that solitary, prolonged concentration is "an aberration in the great sweep of intellectual history" - it only emerged with printed books. Museums are asking for that
same aberration: sustained, focused attention on objects.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-whitespace-normal"><span style="color:black">But we're building technology that returns visitors to what Carr calls our "natural state of distractedness." Apps that interrupt. Screens that fragment. Interfaces optimized for skimming.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-whitespace-normal"><span style="color:black">The challenge should never be to make museums more digital. It's preserving and supporting (including with digital tools) that "aberration" of deep attention that makes museum encounters meaningful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-whitespace-normal"><span style="color:black">Appreciate the recommendation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 2:39<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM Callomon,Paul <<a href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I recommend reading “The Shallows: How the Internet is changing the way we read, think and remember” by Nicholas Carr.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><a href="mailto:callomon@ansp.org" target="_blank">callomon@ansp.org</a> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170</i></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Thor Martin Jensen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 6, 2025 8:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Visitor Attention as a Design Constraint in Digital Collections</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Dear colleagues,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">There's a viral photo of visitors on their phones in the Louvre's Grande Galerie that's sparked the usual "phones are ruining museums" discourse. But I think it actually illustrates a fundamental design problem in how
we've approached digital interpretation.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">After two decades building digital technology products, I've come to believe we miscalculated the core problem. It was never about access to information - it was about attention as a finite resource.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">I've written about this tension and what it means for how we think about visitor technology: <a href="https://thormartinbaerug.com/2025/11/05/how-were-building-museum-technology-that-gets-out-of-the-way/" target="_blank">https://thormartinbaerug.com/2025/11/05/how-were-building-museum-technology-that-gets-out-of-the-way/</a></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">The argument centers on why audio-first approaches preserve visual attention in ways that screen-based interpretation cannot, and why the "technology that disappears" principle matters more than feature richness.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Would be interested in perspectives from colleagues working in collections with diverse audiences and interpretation needs.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif">Sincerely / Med Venlig Hilsen</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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