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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Dear Dirk,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I appreciate the additional input!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">I think for now, we will stick to superficial cleaning
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Thank you and have a good festive season!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">Vanessa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:normal"><b>From:</b> Dirk Neumann <d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 15, 2025 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Vanessa Pitusi <vanessa.pitusi@uit.no>; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] [EXTERN] Cetacean skeleton issues<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Vanessa,<span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">if it is indeed mould (you would easily recognise this from the powdery spores), you can treat this with 70% EtOH. Otherwise, if it is "just" grease, the question would be if conservation treatment is needed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Especially old whales have a lot of grease in their bones, and even if you would degrease the surface, the remaining grease would ooze out again. Which chemical decreasing, you would probably reduce the scientific value of the specimen,
because the chemical agents and decreasing procedure would affect the remaining proteins and lipids that might be useful for future research.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With best wishes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 15.12.2025 um 13:26 schrieb Vanessa Pitusi:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Dear Dirk,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Thank you for getting back to me and, mould, what a Christmas present
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">All the best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">
<nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dirk Neumann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 15, 2025 12:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] [EXTERN] Cetacean skeleton issues<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">on a quick look, some seems like intense oil/fat staining, but especially on the second picture it looks like if there would be mould growth on top of the greasy surfaces.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">With best wishes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Am 15.12.2025 um 12:29 schrieb Vanessa Pitusi:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have been going through our cetacean skeletons and have noticed some issues (see photos).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Any advice on how to treat such conditions and how long that would take?
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Vanessa<o:p></o:p></p>
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