<div dir="ltr">Hi All,<div>We managed to clean 55 year old greasy bowhead whale bones for our skeleton now assembled on exhibit. My how-to from the skeleton build book (available here, <a href="https://www.theboneman.com/">https://www.theboneman.com/</a>) is attached. Maceration can do it.</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Aren</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 15, 2025 at 5:20 AM Callomon,Paul <<a href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg8556983879167778716">
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of it from the whales on display, despite easily that long having elapsed. Part of the experience.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dirk Neumann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 15, 2025 9:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Vanessa Pitusi <<a href="mailto:vanessa.pitusi@uit.no" target="_blank">vanessa.pitusi@uit.no</a>>; <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] [EXTERN] Cetacean skeleton issues<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">if it is indeed mould (you would easily recognise this from the powdery spores), you can treat this with 70% EtOH. Otherwise, if it is "just" grease, the question would be if conservation treatment is needed.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in">Especially old whales have a lot of grease in their bones, and even if you would degrease the surface, the remaining grease would ooze out again. Which chemical decreasing, you would probably reduce the scientific
value of the specimen, because the chemical agents and decreasing procedure would affect the remaining proteins and lipids that might be useful for future research.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif">Thank you for getting back to me and, mould, what a Christmas present
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] [EXTERN] Cetacean skeleton issues<u></u><u></u></p>
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on a quick look, some seems like intense oil/fat staining, but especially on the second picture it looks like if there would be mould growth on top of the greasy surfaces.<u></u><u></u></p>
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Am 15.12.2025 um 12:29 schrieb Vanessa Pitusi:<u></u><u></u></p>
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I have been going through our cetacean skeletons and have noticed some issues (see photos).<u></u><u></u></p>
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Any advice on how to treat such conditions and how long that would take? <u></u><u></u></p>
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</div></blockquote></div><div><br clear="all"></div><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Aren Gunderson<br>Mammal Collection Manager<div><a href="http://www.uaf.edu/museum" target="_blank">University of Alaska Museum of the North</a></div><div>1962 Yukon Drive</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Fairbanks, AK 99775</span></div><div><a href="mailto:amgunderson@alaska.edu" target="_blank">amgunderson@alaska.edu</a><br>907-474-6947<br><span> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>