[Tshwanelex-l] Digraph and trigraph sorting etc.
David Joffe
david.joffe at tshwanedje.com
Thu Aug 2 22:41:18 EDT 2012
Oh yes, one quick 'caveat' - if you set up digraph sorting in the
new version, save the file, then load the file in a pre-.653 version
- the file should load, but the digraph sorting won't work properly
anymore. (Hopefully that should be relatively obvious.)
On 3 Aug 2012 at 3:45, David Joffe wrote:
From: "David Joffe" <david.joffe at tshwanedje.com>
To: tshwanelex-l at mailman.yale.edu,
Menan Du Plessis <menan.du.plessis at gmail.com>
Date sent: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 03:45:40 +0200
Priority: normal
Subject: [Tshwanelex-l] Digraph and trigraph sorting etc.
> Hi all,
>
> A test version of the (long-awaited) digraph (and trigraph etc.)
> supporting version of the table-based configurable sorting in TLex
> is now available:
>
> http://tshwanedje.com/builds/653/
>
> It would be great if it could get a little more testing before being
> rolled into the 'formal' build, so anyone waiting for this
> functionality, please give it a go. A small sample is also attached.
>
> Basically the old user interface for configuring the sorting has
> changed in only one way (which you can't miss): Whereas before, all
> variant forms where on one line, e.g.:
> a -> variant-forms: Aa
> now, the variant forms are separated by line breaks, e.g.:
> a -> variant-forms:
> A
> a
>
> so this allows a digraph to be entered as, for example:
> ch -> variant-forms:
> ch
> CH
> Ch
> cH
>
> If it's not reasonably clear let me know?
>
> Note this same system should be able to work out the box (well, with
> some configuration of course per dictionary etc.) not only for
> digraphs (or trigraphs), but also other cases where one alphabetic
> 'letter' may be represented by a string of 2 or more Unicode
> characters as a variant form - so e.g. that would include combining
> diacritic forms, and also non-canonical variants (that basically
> gmholton at alaska.edurefers to when there is more than one way in
> Unicode to represent the same character, e.g. e with accent can be
> represented, for example, either as the single precombined form:
> U+00e9
> or, slightly more unusually, as e.g. a plain latin 'e' with
> combining accent:
> U+0065 + U+0301
>
> (However, for most users compiling dictionaries, implementing that
> level within the sorting is not generally necessary, and can anyway
> be worked around in such a controlled environment. But anyway, it
> might be of theoretical or even practical interest to some.)
>
> - David
>
>
> On 17 Jul 2012 at 8:19, Menan Du Plessis wrote:
>
> Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:19:00 +0200
> From: Menan Du Plessis <menan.du.plessis at gmail.com>
> To: tshwanelex-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: [Tshwanelex-l] sending sample to a 3rd party; configuring sorting
>
> >
> > Hi everyone.
> >
> > I need to send a sample soon to the people who run the electronic
> > archive (ELAR, at SOAS) where our material will be deposited. (Am
> > working on an extremely endangered language, with essentially one last
> > speaker, who is 100 years old.) So my first urgent question is:
> >
> > Q: How do I organize my sound files plus the dictionary so that my
> > recipient will be able to click on the icon and hear the recorded
> > examples I have linked to my entries? Is there a way to put them both
> > into one folder, and then specify the directory in a neutral way, i.e.
> > that doesn't include a drive on my own computer as part of the address?
> >
> > And my second urgent question is:
> >
> > Q: How do I configure the sorting where digraphs, trigraphs (and
> > polygraphs) need to be accommodated on the first pass?
> >
> > I know that David will soon be getting to me with advice on the second
> > question - and I do understand that everyone has been super busy getting
> > the 2012 version ready for release ... () - but in the mean time, it
> > occurs to me that this must be a pretty common need, so I'd like to put
> > it out there, in case anyone else has already worked out how to do this?
> >
> > I am starting to fret very slightly!
> > Best wishes,
> > Menan
>
>
>
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