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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Re: </span><span style="color:black">49 Suiatna, R. Utju, 1969-</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> 370 needs addition of Indonesia?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">OK, I added Indonesia. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> yul-naco-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:yul-naco-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Arakawa, Steven<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Distribution list for YUL NACO catalogers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [yul-naco] records for LC review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Re: </span><span style="color:black">49 Suiatna, R. Utju, 1969-</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> 370 needs addition of Indonesia? Where is justification for form in 400 beginning Haji?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Appendix F Indonesian names. F.6.1.7.
</span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black">Distinguish titles used as such from the same words adopted by a person as elements of his or her name. When in doubt, treat the words as a title.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:black">… Record the direct form of the title plus name (even when the title is not recorded as a title of the person) as a variant name (see<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp9&target=rda9-3589#rda9-3589" id="rdaf-5001"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS","sans-serif";color:#21368B;text-decoration:none">9.2.3.10</span></b></a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">9.2.3.10: Honorary titles & terms of address. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I defer to Dorothy in whether the H. is considered an element of the name or a title, but the written out form is assumed to be Haji (meaning the person had made the pilgrimage to Mecca). In her AACR2 training by LC, the direct form reference
always gave the Haji in written out form, and a direct form reference with the abbreviation for Haji was never made. This was not documented in the LCRI, as far as I know, & isn’t in LCPS either. Ric, could you ask the LC liaison whether this is still considered
best practice with RDA authority records?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Steven Arakawa <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Catalog Librarian for Training & Documentation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Catalog & Metadata Services, SML, Yale University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">P.O. Box 208240 New Haven, CT 06520-8240
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(203)432-8286 steven.arakawa@yale.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> yul-naco-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:yul-naco-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Young, Stephen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Distribution list for YUL NACO catalogers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [yul-naco] records for LC review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My comments are below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Stephen Young<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> yul-naco-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:yul-naco-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sarcia, Richard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 10, 2012 5:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> yul-naco@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [yul-naco] records for LC review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d like to send the first batch of records to LC for review at the end of next week. Could you please make any comments and/or changes to the following records by Thursday, 16 August? I’ll plan on submitting them on Friday, 17 August.
Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">--Rick<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">10 Ewing and Allen, Architects<span style="color:#1F497D"> 372 – Capitalize the first word in subfield A; 670/2 needs final closing parenthesis, no final punctuation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">12 Bernal, Jesús, 1976-</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> 374 – The plurals seem odd to me, even if from lcsh. Is this what we’re supposed to do?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">34 Convento de Regina Coeli (Sanlúcar de Barrameda, Spain)</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> 670/1 – Delete final punctuation. Looks O.K. to me otherwise. Question about 370. Is subfield e sufficient, or do we
also need to provide subfield c?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">32 De Fornaris, Fabrizio, -1637?</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> I updated by adding 370 (he’s Neopolitan, but wasn’t sure of the connection) and 400/3; removed period from final 370</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">11 Cini, Desiderio<span style="color:#1F497D"> 370 is now subfield a; added 374 Dramatist (partially following SRA’s suggestion to use Dramatists |2lcsh Can we get a ruling on the singular plural issue for 374?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">24 <span style="color:black">Briccio, Giovanni, 1581-1646</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> I updated by changing 370 from subfield e to subfield a and updated 370/3 to show he was born in Rome</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2 <span style="color:black">Biancolelli, Orsola, -1718</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> I updated by adding 370</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">23 Obregón Goyarrola, Fernando, 1968-</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> 374 plurals seem jarring. MARC format gives singular example.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">35 Rodríguez Duarte, Ma. del Carmen</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> 374 plurals again?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">34 Convento de Regina Coeli (Sanlúcar de Barrameda, Spain)</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> See above</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">16 Purwanto, Eko</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> Looks O.K.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">17 Ra'uf, Amrin, 1955-</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> Looks O.K.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">49 Suiatna, R. Utju, 1969-</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> 370 needs addition of Indonesia? Where is justification for form in 400 beginning Haji?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">50 Littek, Frank, 1962-</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> Looks O.K. to me</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">37 Schweizer Alpenclub. Sektion Lägern</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> Schweizer Alpen-Club is established in NAF. Doesn’t that mean we can’t establish this subordinate body as RDA?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">3 Sanden, Gabriel, 1885-1933</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> Looks O.K.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Bianchi, Lodovico (no2012103131; inadvertently produced, but it can still be updated if necessary)</span><span style="color:#1F497D"> Didn’t update with 374 Dramatist, but it could be done. Not required.</span><span style="color:black">
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