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</span></b>Frank, Paul<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:20 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: Order of subfields in RDA NARs for personal names<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Richard, Nancy, Chuck, and other curious PCC list readers,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">This question and various permutations on it have been asked many times already, so in the April 2013 DCM Z1 update,
 the following statement will appear in the 100 Heading - Personal Name section, and today I will add a Personal Name FAQ on this as well:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">*****<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><i><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext;font-style:italic">Order of subfields in 100 field<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">There is no prescribed MARC order for the subfields beyond subfield $a in the X00 fields. RDA 9.2.2.9.5 provides
 guidance for the placement of words indicating relationship (e.g., Jr.) and MARC defines subfield $q as “fuller form of name.” When providing multiple additions to the name generally follow these guidelines:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">1) Subfield $d (date) should always be the last element in a 100 string unless the term<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">(Spirit) is being added to the name. Add $c (Spirit) as the last element in a 100<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">string.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Example:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:windowtext">100 0# $a Elizabeth $b I, $c Queen of England, $d<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:windowtext">1533-1603 $c (Spirit)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">2) Generally add subfield $c before subfield $q when also adding words, numerals, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">indicating relationship. (See RDA 9.2.2.9.5 for treatment of Portuguese names)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Example:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:windowtext">100 1# $a McCauley, Robert H., $c Jr. $q (Robert<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:windowtext">Henry), $d 1913-1979<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:windowtext">100 1# $a M. Alicia $q (Mary Alicia), $c Sister,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:windowtext"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">3) For exceptional situations, such as when subfield $a contains only a surname or only a<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">forename or the name includes a prefix, etc. consult LC-PCC PS 1.7.1, section
<i><span style="font-style:italic">Access<o:p></o:p></span></i></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext;font-style:italic">points for persons in name authority and bibliographic records</span></font></i><font size="2" color="black"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">,
 paragraph 3c.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">*****<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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 Program for Cooperative Cataloging <a href="mailto:[mailto:PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV]">
[mailto:PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV]</a> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Moore, Richard<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 18, 2013 10:52 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PCCLIST] Order of subfields in RDA NARs for personal names<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">Charles</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">I think that &quot;in that order&quot; in 9.19.1.1 refers to an intended order of precedence for single qualifiers that might
 be added to distinguish, rather than to the order in which multiple qualifiers might be added to&nbsp;one name.&nbsp;The corresponding LC-PCC-PS (9.19.1.1 : Differentiating Authorized Access Points for Persons) parses the rule but countermands the&nbsp;order of precedence
 (&quot;add one of the following (not listed in priority order)&quot;.&nbsp;</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">I don't know whether there might be a difference in the placing of an occupation in relation to a date, depending on
 whether the occupation was added following 9.19.1.2 e), or 9.19.1.6 ...</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Herrold, Charles<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 18 February 2013 15:11<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV">
PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PCCLIST] Order of subfields in RDA NARs for personal names</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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 eng </span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">e
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 PPi-MA<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">046&nbsp;
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">f
 1975<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">1000
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">KJ-52 </span></b></span></font><b><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold">ǂ</span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold">c
 (Rapper), </span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold">ǂ</span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold">d
 1975-&nbsp; [changed from KJ52 (Rapper)]</span></font></b><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">374&nbsp; Rap musicians
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">2
 lcsh<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">375&nbsp; male<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">4000 KJ52
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">c
 (Rapper), </span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">d
 1975-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">4001 Sorrentino, Jonah,
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">d
 1975-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">670&nbsp; KJ52 (Rapper). 7th Avenue, p2000:
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">b
 label (KJ52)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">670&nbsp; His It's pronounced five two [SR] p2003:
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">b
 label (KJ-52)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">670&nbsp; Behind the musik, 2005:
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">b
 insert (KJ-52)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">670&nbsp; All music guide WWW site, 05-08-03
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">b
 (KJ-52; b. Jonah Sorrentino; Christian rapper)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">670&nbsp; U.S. copyright file, Dec. 19, 2012
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">b
 (Sorrentino, Jonah Kirsten Carlin, 1975- )<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">670&nbsp; KJ-52 WWW site, Dec. 19, 2012
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">b
 (KJ-52)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">670&nbsp; Facebook, Dec. 19, 2012
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Lucida Sans Unicode&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ǂ</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">b
 (KJ-52)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The reasoning was as follows: 9.19.1.2 says:
</span></font><font size="3" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Unicode MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN">Add to the name one or more of the following elements (in this order), as applicable:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Unicode MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN">e) the profession or occupation (see
<a href="http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp9&amp;target=rda9-5314#rda9-5314">
9.16<b><font color="#21368b"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#21368B;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none"><img border="0" width="31" height="13" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CE0E81.93846320" alt="Description: http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png"></span></font></b></a>)
 for a person whose name consists of a phrase or appellation not conveying the idea of a person.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Unicode MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Since I also knew the birth date, I then added that.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">9.19.1.1, the general guidelines, has:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Arial Unicode MS"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial Unicode MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN">Make additions to the name as instructed at
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 in that order, as applicable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 9.19.1.3, date, precedes 9.19.1.6, profession.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">In AACR2, I frequently constructed headings of this sort by using a birth date only, assuming the presence of
 that would be enough to clarify that the name was that of a person.&nbsp; In this case, KJ-52, $d 1975- is what I would have done.&nbsp; Perhaps that approach could be used in RDA.&nbsp; It would avoid making a decision on the order of these additions, but maybe it was wrong
 in AACR2 to begin with (e.g., compared with the references in n&nbsp; 93086906, to Shakur, Tupac … which have $c (Musician), $d 1971-1996)&nbsp;&nbsp; I cannot find an example in RDA that includes both of these additions.&nbsp; I don’t believe AACR2 has one either.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; So, do the general guidelines take precedence over the specific case of 9.19.1.2:
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Moore, Richard<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 18, 2013 3:24 AM<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PCCLIST] Order of subfields in RDA NARs for personal names<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">Nancy</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">I think&nbsp;the assumptions in your first paragraph&nbsp;are correct.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">Putting $c (Spirit) after $d [date] feels right, because the entity is (putatively) the spirit of the person who had
 those dates.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">The case with date and occupation is a new situation, and I'm not sure&nbsp;if there are examples in the documentation, or
 precedents to follow.&nbsp;If we are saying &quot;there are two people called&nbsp;Ian Roberts, both&nbsp;born in 1952, and one needs the additional qualifer
<em><i><font face="Verdana"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Actor</span></font></i></em>&quot;, then it's probably correct to put the &quot;additional&quot; qualifer&nbsp;afterwards:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">Roberts, Ian, $d 1952- $c (Actor)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">I must admit that I too would&nbsp;be tempted to omit the date from the access point for the actor, if it was not already
 present, in the interests of tidiness&nbsp;- though as you say, the PS suggests otherwise.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Nancy Sack<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 16 February 2013 01:11<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:PCCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [PCCLIST] Order of subfields in RDA NARs for personal names</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Aloha,<br>
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We're hoping for some clarification about the order of subfields in RDA NARs for personal names. Is it correct that subfield $c follows subfield $d for cataloger additions--occupation terms and also &quot;Spirit&quot;--that are recorded in parentheses but that subfield
 $c precedes $d when we record terms considered part of the name (such as Jr. or III) or associated titles (such as Countess), or--in the near future--terms of address, honor, office, and rank (such as Sir, Captain, Rev.)? In other words, does $c comes after
 $d when it contains parentheses but before $d when it does not?<br>
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Here's a real-live example: We are updating and recoding NAR no2009160736 (Roberts, Ian, $c actor). The year of birth is known (1952) but another individual is already using the heading Roberts, Ian, $d 1952. Which of these is correct?<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Roberts, Ian, $d 1952- $c (Actor)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Roberts, Ian $c (Actor), $d 1952-<br>
Or is it better not to record the date in the 100 field at all (in violation of the LC-PCC PS at 9.19.1.3) and leave the heading with the unique string Roberts, Ian $c (Actor)? After all, that's what the Phase 2 program would do...<br>
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Thanks.<br>
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Nancy</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Nancy Sack<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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