From AJDGOMEZ at telefonica.net Fri Oct 29 01:46:09 2004 From: AJDGOMEZ at telefonica.net (AJDGOMEZ@telefonica.net) Date: Fri Oct 29 01:45:18 2004 Subject: [Eac-l] EAC beta Spanish translation Message-ID: <6e2d769a1c.69a1c6e2d7@teleline.es> Dear Colleagues, I have just finished a Spanish translation of the EAC Tag Library, and I am wondering if some volunteers would be interested in reviewing the translation. Probably I've made some mistakes, or misunderstood some terms or sentences. I would be grateful if somebody could improve the translation with suggestions. Thank you very much Alejandro Delgado-G?mez City Council of Cartagena 3000 Informatics From dpitti at virginia.edu Fri Oct 29 10:09:41 2004 From: dpitti at virginia.edu (Daniel Pitti) Date: Fri Oct 29 10:09:00 2004 Subject: [Eac-l] EAC DTD error Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041029100913.02cf7ec0@d.mail.virginia.edu> >Per-Gunnar Ottosson has pointed out to me that the @type values on >in the beta dtd are different from the values listed in the Tag Library. >After a bit of discussion, we concluded that the Tag Library is correct >and the DTD (and thus the two schemas) are in error. > >We would like to change the values in the DTD from: > >corpname | persname | famname > >to > >corporatebody | person | family > >The logic: an EAC instance describes the corporate body, person, or >family, and not the name, as such. > >Does anyone have any counter arguments to this correction? > >Daniel From florence.clavaud at arkheia.net Fri Oct 29 11:02:48 2004 From: florence.clavaud at arkheia.net (Florence Clavaud) Date: Fri Oct 29 11:02:01 2004 Subject: [Eac-l] EAC DTD error References: <6.1.2.0.2.20041029100913.02cf7ec0@d.mail.virginia.edu> Message-ID: <013d01c4bdc8$5b3f9920$8afef8c1@AnaphoreFC> Hello, I do agree with this correction, I had noticed the difference between the DTD and the Tag Library too :-) Thanks, and bye, Florence Clavaud > > >Per-Gunnar Ottosson has pointed out to me that the @type values on > >in the beta dtd are different from the values listed in the Tag Library. > >After a bit of discussion, we concluded that the Tag Library is correct > >and the DTD (and thus the two schemas) are in error. > > > >We would like to change the values in the DTD from: > > > >corpname | persname | famname > > > >to > > > >corporatebody | person | family > > > >The logic: an EAC instance describes the corporate body, person, or > >family, and not the name, as such. > > > >Does anyone have any counter arguments to this correction? > > > >Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > Eac-l mailing list > Eac-l@mailman.yale.edu > http://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/eac-l > From dpitti at virginia.edu Fri Oct 29 11:24:43 2004 From: dpitti at virginia.edu (Daniel Pitti) Date: Fri Oct 29 11:23:59 2004 Subject: [Eac-l] Re: EAC DTD error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041029112025.01ce4028@d.mail.virginia.edu> Barbara, I am just about to rush off to a meeting which will occupy me for most of the afternoon. The distinction you make about names vs entity brings back my library authority work. This well may be a point of divergence between library authority control and archival authority control, that is, whether it is about the name or the entity (or perhaps entities) bearing the name (or same names). I'll wait to hear more from the archivists before venturing much further out on the limb. Daniel At 11:02 AM 10/29/2004, you wrote: >I cannot quite follow what the issue is here as my version of the DTD >and Tag Library information both show "corpname", etc. Can you tell me >where in the DTD and the Tag Library you are trying to make this >correction? I can't find it. > >I'm also not clear about what you are asking. As you know, in >authority records or packages of authoritative information about an >identity (EAC recognizes identities) the focus is on the names to be >used to represent that entity (the identity) - and those in turn can be >associated with one or more actual persons (or corporate bodies, or >families). An entity of "person", "corporate body", or "family" can >certainly exist, but in the EAC context, the EAC instance is not >actually the person, but rather the name(s) associated with that person >within a particular identity - possibly linked to the name of a real >individual which could be seen as the surrogate for the "person," but it >is not actually the person (and sometimes not even a real person -as for >fictitious characters, etc.). So if you are giving names to the >entities - won't you need both the persname, corpname, famname as well >as person, corporate body, family? > >I feel I'm not following the goal of the argument...can you help >explain what's issue here? (I wish we could talk and not email...are >you by a phone today?) - bt > >Dr. Barbara B. Tillett, Ph.D. >Chief, Cataloging Policy and Support Office >Library of Congress >101 Independence Ave., S.E. >Washington, D.C. 20540-4134 >U.S.A. > >tel.: +1 (202) 707-4714 >fax: +1 (202) 707-6629 >email: btil@loc.gov > > >>> Daniel Pitti 10/29/2004 10:09:41 AM >>> > > >Per-Gunnar Ottosson has pointed out to me that the @type values on > > >in the beta dtd are different from the values listed in the Tag >Library. > >After a bit of discussion, we concluded that the Tag Library is >correct > >and the DTD (and thus the two schemas) are in error. > > > >We would like to change the values in the DTD from: > > > >corpname | persname | famname > > > >to > > > >corporatebody | person | family > > > >The logic: an EAC instance describes the corporate body, person, or > >family, and not the name, as such. > > > >Does anyone have any counter arguments to this correction? > > > >Daniel From dpitti at virginia.edu Fri Oct 29 10:05:14 2004 From: dpitti at virginia.edu (Daniel Pitti) Date: Fri Oct 29 11:45:01 2004 Subject: [Eac-l] EAC DTD error Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20041029100107.02ce5ec0@d.mail.virginia.edu> Per-Gunnar Ottosson has pointed out to me that the @type values on in the beta dtd are different from the values listed in the Tag Library. After a bit of discussion, we concluded that the Tag Library is correct and the DTD (and thus the two schemas) are in error. We would like to change the values in the DTD from: corpname | persname | famname to corporatebody | person | family The logic: an EAC instance describes the corporate body, person, or family, and not the name, as such. Does anyone have any counter arguments to this correction? Daniel From gavan at austehc.unimelb.edu.au Sun Oct 31 18:49:21 2004 From: gavan at austehc.unimelb.edu.au (Gavan McCarthy) Date: Mon Nov 1 09:30:32 2004 Subject: [Eac-l] REAR - EAC DTD error In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20041029100913.02cf7ec0@d.mail.virginia.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20041101104851.00c37618@mail.staff.unimelb.edu.au> Nope .... Gavan At 10:09 AM 29/10/2004 -0400, Daniel Pitti wrote: >>Per-Gunnar Ottosson has pointed out to me that the @type values on >>in the beta dtd are different from the values listed in the Tag Library. >>After a bit of discussion, we concluded that the Tag Library is correct >>and the DTD (and thus the two schemas) are in error. >> >>We would like to change the values in the DTD from: >> >>corpname | persname | famname >> >>to >> >>corporatebody | person | family >> >>The logic: an EAC instance describes the corporate body, person, or >>family, and not the name, as such. >> >>Does anyone have any counter arguments to this correction? >> >>Daniel > > >* Gavan McCarthy - Director >* Australian Science and Technology Heritage Centre >* Room 219, Old Arts Building >* The University of Melbourne Victoria 3010 >* Phone: +61 3 8344 3304 Fax: +61 3 9349 4630 >* > >This e-mail and any attachments may contain personal information or >information that is otherwise confidential or the subject of copyright. >Any use, disclosure or copying of any part of it is prohibited. 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