[KineJapan] Query on hippopotamus movies

[Anne McKnight]

Thanks to both of you, Mark and Markus. Indeed, it looks (from the descriptions) to be the Livier film, and I will cross-check the dates along with the other films in the Kagakushōin book.

Many thanks!

Anne

> On Dec 28, 2018, at 13:59, Mark Roberts <mroberts37 at mail-central.com> wrote:
> 
> Anne,
> 
> These are guesses and I have no idea if they were distributed in Japan, but...
> 
> Chasse à l'hippopotame sur le Nil bleu <http://filmographie.fondation-jeromeseydoux-pathe.com/2333-chasse-a-l-hippopotame-dans-le-nil-bleu-la> (1908) and Une grande chasse à l'hippopotame sur le Haut Nil <http://filmographie.fondation-jeromeseydoux-pathe.com/8206-une-grande-chasse-a-l> (1910), both directed by Alfred Machin, who did a number of other films about hunting animals in Africa.
> 
> Chasse à l’hippopotame en haute Gambie <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPFJj5wclEw> (1917), directed by M. Livier.
> 
> All three were documentaries for Pathé. The one by Livier is on YouTube.
> 
> There is also Jean Rouch's first film in Africa, Bangawi: chasse traditionnelle à l’hippopotame <http://www.comitedufilmethnographique.com/film/bangawi-chasse-traditionnelle-a-lhippopotame/>, but it's from 1947.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2018, at 22:06, Anne McKnight <annekmcknight at gmail.com <mailto:annekmcknight at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, and happy almost new year~
>> 
>> I have a query about a specific film I have read about a couple of times—yet it is never attributed a name, director, or even year. My best guess is Taisho 12. 
>> 
>> One account says it is a movie about “hippopotamus hunting,” and mentions the commentary by Tokugawa Musei, whereas the other just focuses on how the hippo can be accessed better on the screen as a phenomenology project, mentioning no bench or even story. The first account (the more entertainment-oriented one) remarks that people laughed at various parts of the film, coaxed by the commentary, where the other (the more “critical” one) doesn’t mention the audience at all. Both critics mention Africa, hippos, hippo splashing behavior, around the same time…so I am pretty sure they are the same film. They just show very different attitudes about how to use photo-realism to understand “nature.” 
>> 
>> I am curious if anyone else has seen references to this movie, or even the movie itself. No idea where it comes from, but in the memoir I am reading, the author typically mentions if it is an Ufa film, so it might not be Ufa. And if it is a dramaturged “documentary,” at least it is more real than, say, Baboona (1935), which I have also seen referenced as a scientific (科学) film.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help or wild guesses!
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
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