complaint address

Kathleen Moon kmoon at ucla.edu
Thu Apr 22 11:29:18 EDT 1999


Doug Yanega wrote:
> 
> I shouldn't follow this up, but Kathleen said something I cannot let pass:
> 
> >> Rest assured that Mr. Castellano will ignore complaints sent to him (only
> >> natural, since he evidently runs the business, and Singapore and Hong Kong
> >> are THE places for people who want to run e-mail scams - I don't think I've
> >> seen a single honest business with a domain there in my 10+ years on the
> >> Net), but if you complain politely to postmaster at resolver.net, that should
> >> get someone's SERIOUS attention.
> >
> >True.  There is something even more effective: tell you Internet Service
> >Provider (ISP).  That should get some good service as well: an ISP can
> >block email coming in that originates from an offending site,  Although
> >this situation, it coming from overseas makes it a little harder, but
> >not much.  It works very well for spam email.
> 
> This is NOT, in any real way, "effective", any more than unplugging your TV
> and radio is effective in stopping wars, murders, etc. Getting the
> offending individual's account and/or website closed IS effective, and the
> only reason we still *have* a functional internet is because some of us
> DON'T use killfiles and filters. A "cop-out" accomplishes nothing. I don't
> mean to pick on Kathleen, either - this "delete button" approach is a
> *general* problem, and while asking your ISP to set up a filter may be a
> good backup course of action (it *is* better than simply deleting mail, as
> most folks do), it is by no means the *first* choice.
>         Most directly, though, in the present case such action would be
> *truly* worthless, because the message was delivered via leps-l, so even if
> your ISP put up a filter, you'd still see anything Mr. Castellano sent to
> leps-l in the future. Also, as a general rule, spammers use false and/or
> morphing addresses, so you CAN'T set up a filter. Prevention is the only
> cure.

You may be right where newsgroup posts are concerned, but I am not
certain about the email side of the situation.  So farm when I have
asked the L A Free-Net to stop email spam, it has usually been quite
effective in ferreting out the real sender, despite morphing and false
addresses.  They have ways of finding offending email's real origins,
and then tell the offending party to stop.  Several times, I have asked
the techies at LAFN to do so, and they have succeeded every time in
shutting down the sender - or at least in getting the sender to stop
(only a couple times has this taken a second attempt).

PS: By the way, this is Pierre Plauzoles using Kathleen Moon's Internet
access due to technical difficulties with my own.


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