ID Kenyan skipper
venters at iinteralpha.co.uk
Fri Jun 11 13:18:01 EDT 1999
They are just forms, not subspecies.
Guy Van de Poel <Guy_VdP at t-online.de> wrote in article
<015f01beb2c1$9f32ee60$e7049d3e at server>...
> I would like to add to the previous mail from Nigel,
> There does not seem to be any concensus about whether or not D.
> has subspecies or not. It has a vast range, and is a known migrant. Many
> systematists use this as an argument not to divide it in subspecies,
> disregard it.
> E.g. in 'The Butterflies of Kenya and their Natural History' by Larsen,
> calls the species occurring in Africa D. chrysippus chrysippus, and in
> text he states 'The name aegyptius Schreber, 1795 [sic] is often used
> subspecifically for the African populations, but the variation in the
> species is not well expressed in conventional subspecific terms.'
> In 'Carcasson's African Butterflies' from editors Ackery, Smith and
> Vane-Wright from the (former British) Natural History Museum, it is noted
> precisely that ssp. (aegyptius, 1759 [sic]) occuring in Africa.
> Please note that the authors of both works worked together on the
> nomenclatorial part.
> The forms given by Nigel hereunder are what they are, just forms, and
> be noted as Danaus chrysippus chrysippus (Linnaeus, 1758) f. dorippus
> 1845. And if anyone cares to consult further literature, there are many
> to be found.
> Guy Van de Poel
> Guy_VdP at t-online.de
> Royal Entomological Society of Antwerp
> >Thank you for this mail, I know African Danaus chrysippus very well
> >lived in Africa for 10 years. Danaus chrysippus occurs in 4 principle
> >in Africa (Some intermediates also) They are D.c. chrysippus... with
> >and white markings on wing tips & orange hindwing. D.c.
> >alcippus....black and white marking on wing tips but large white patch
> >hindwing. D.c. dorippus....Orange forewing, no black and white spots
> >orange hindwing... (Note underside may also indicate suggestion of
> >This was the specimen photographed. and finally D.c. albinus... Orange
> >forewing & large white patch on hindwing... (This shows through
> >very strongly)
> >Hope this helps clear this matter up.
> >Stanley Cabigas <juwaki at pacific.net.ph> wrote in article
> ><000101beb0ea$7b8c9840$26f717d2 at kilimanjaro>...
> >> Well, actually, I was wrong in giving the subspecies name as D. c.
> >> chrysippus Linnaeus. That is for what occurs here in the Philippines.
> >> Nigel may be correct in saying it as form dorippus. My apologies.
> >> Stanley
> >> juwaki at pacific.net.ph
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-leps-l at lists.yale.edu [mailto:owner-leps-l at lists.yale.edu]
> >> Behalf Of Cameron
> >> Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 2:26 AM
> >> To: leps-l at lists.yale.edu
> >> Subject: Re: ID Kenyan skipper
> >> Thanks to all who replied, both publically and privatly. The
> >> consus is that I can't tell hooked antanae, and that it is a Danaus
> >> chrysippus, though there is some disagreement about subspecies.
> >> The photo was backlit, shot in Amboselli national park, I think, and
> >> would have been in Feb or March.
> >> Thanks again all.
> >> Cameron
> >> Cameron wrote in message <3753538e at news1.us.ibm.net>...
> >> >http://members.xoom.com/CJNickerson/kenya.htm
> >> >Theres a Kenyan fluttery on this page, can anyone tell me what it is?
> >> >thanks,
> >> >Cameron
> >> >
> >> >
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