re. Graellsia cocoons

[Paul (ELG)]

Dear Martin,

It appears that the G.I. sale posting fulfils the first of your counts, as
it has led to further discussion.......

As far as I am aware, CAPTIVE-BRED stocks should fall outside the scope of
the various regulations governing trade in wild species and/or endangered
wild species. This is certainly the case with the British W&C Act 1981 &
subsequent amendments.  It SHOULD also be the case with the CITES
regulations.

G.I., to my knowledge as ELG sales list editor, is not traded very often,
in our group only by one spanish member (licensed). I would personally
welcome more legal trade in this species (captive-bred) as it is my belief
that this can take the pressure off the collecting of wild-specimens.

Overtly commercial is the fact that any site in England (and elsewhere) can
be and will be bulldozed tomorrow for the sake of yet another hypermarket
or new road development. There will never be the money available to match
commerce.

As long as we don't see the postings of long lists of stuff, then I for one
have no objections.

Paul Batty

Paul W Batty (Editor E.L.G.)
The Entomological Livestock Group has over 550 members.
Website: http://www.pwbelg.clara.net/index.html


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> From: Martin Honey <M.Honey at NHM.AC.UK>
> To: leps-l at lists.yale.edu
> Subject: re. Graellsia cocoons
> Date: 25 July 2000 09:42
> 
> >Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:25:59 -0400
> >From: Patrick Marceau <lepsjournal at sympatico.ca>
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> >To: Leps-l <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
> >Subject: Graellsia cocoons
> >Reply-To: lepsjournal at sympatico.ca
> >Sender: owner-leps-l at lists.yale.edu
> >
> >Hi,
> >I will have soon my Gi cocoons to sell and around 15-20 Graellsia
> >isabellae galliaegloria to sell also at 20$ US each.
> >Contact me at lepsjournal at sympatico.ca
> 
> Dear All
> 
> I have some concerns about this and a previous message received from the
> same source on two counts and would welcome information to allay my
fears.
> 
> Firstly, to quote from the leps-l faq sheet:
> 
> "Contributors to LEPS-L/SBEL are asked to please refrain from posting
> messages regarding overtly commercial transactions in Lepidoptera that
> otherwise do not contribute to broader discussions."
> 
> and secondly:
> 
> as this species is protected by laws in both Spain and France (the only
> countries in which it occurs), under what regulations is trade in it
> possible. I have no experience in such matters.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Martin
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