Boloria frigga or friggin bologna

Chris J. Durden drdn at mail.utexas.edu
Tue Nov 20 20:56:24 EST 2001


A vote for the "Holistic Species Concept" I take to be equivalent to a vote 
for the "Ecological Species Concept".

The Amphiberingian member of this lineage sounds like it occupies a 
different niche than do the taxa *B. (C.) frigga* of Northwestern Eurasia, 
or both *B. (C.) saga* of Laurentia and *B. (C.) sagata* of the southern 
Rocky Mountains. Has anyone yet done a careful structural comparison of 
these taxa?
........................Chris Durden

At 05:44 PM 11/20/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX" <Norbert.Kondla at gems3.gov.bc.ca>
>To: <fnkwp at aurora.alaska.edu>; <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 4:39 PM
>Subject: RE: Boloria frigga
>
>
> > Very helpful and interesting observations. This reminds me of the issue
>of
> > Beringia and the role it played in the evolution of the various organisms
> > that now live on both sides of the Bering Strait. It is one thing to
> > consider the option of everything that looks kinda similar from Europe to
> > Labrador as being one species. It is another thing to consider the option
> > that there are two species on two continents, and maybe three if one
>looks
> > at the disjunctions of some "species" in northern europe vs futher east
>in
> > Asia. But both of these interpretations may still be too simplistic due
>to
> > the complications of Beringia.  For all anyone knows there could be
> > Beringian species that are presently treated as Beringian subspecies (eg.
> > Papilio alaskensis, Glaucopsyche kurnakovi) or not even recognized at the
> > subspecies level due to preconceived and unscientific notions that
>dismiss
> >
>
>
>Let's also say that Pterourus eurymedon was yellow and black not white and
>black. (again basing "species" on human visual perception).  Now that mtDNA
>studies have shown them to "be the same" (and if only knowing the dna and
>visual factors) we would now say these were the same species.
>
>There has to be a holistic understanding of each organism to reach the
>"correct" conclusion.  Since so many have abandoned subspecies, it is no
>wonder that they now seem to be lumping the species too.
>
>Ron
>
>
>



 
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