Thunberg, 1791

Eric or Pat Metzler spruance at infinet.com
Thu Nov 29 09:53:35 EST 2001



Ron Gatrelle wrote:

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> 
> I guess I should give my verdict based on Eirc's (Metzler's) info.  It is
> still inclusive.  It could be that the "authorship" of the book was
> Becklin's but the "authorship" in the text coined by Thunberg.  Or, Becklin
> was the author of both the book and the names.  If this latter situation is
> the case, then one is left to wonder how Thunberg's name ever got in there
> at all?
> 
> Ron Gatrelle
> 


I recommend that some research be done before wading in too deep with 
conclusions.  There is no wonder how Thumberg's name got there.

It is not a book.  It is a series of 9 or so issues in a serial 
publication entitled "D.D dissertatio entomologica sistens Insecta 
Svecica, quroum partem primam, cons. exper. facult. med. upsal." 
praeside Carol. P. Thunberg.  1784 - 1795.

The issue in question is "...Partem Secundem...Praeside Car. P. 
Thunberg...Publico Examini Subjicit Petrus Ericus Becklin,..."  The 
title page is clear - no one overlooked Becklin's name.

An examination of the publication is required before other avenues of 
research can be undertaken.  Much other information is required before 
the authorship can be determined with accuracy.  Perhaps there is some 
correspondence, perhaps there are other articles, possibly in other 
journals that clarify the authorship.  There are many possibilities 
before one jumps to any conclusion about why authorities ignored 
Becklin's name in favor of Thunberg.

Norbert:  Good hunting on this project.

It is still raining in Columbus - yuch

Eric


> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric or Pat Metzler" <spruance at infinet.com>
> To: <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Thunberg, 1791
> 
> 
> 
>>Norbert,
>>
>>You are coming up with some good ones.
>>
>>The title page says that Petrus Ericus Becklin was the author of Insecta
>>Svecica part 2, 1791.  Each of the parts has a different author.
>>Certainly the bibliographers have known for a long time about this
>>authorship, so there must be some reason why the names in this part are
>>attributed to Thunberg.  You might write to Pamela Gilbert at the
>>British Museum library to find out why Thunberg is credited with
>>authorship for the names in the part authored by Becklin.  Maybe
>>Thunberg wrote all the parts in spite of what it says on the individual
>>title pages.
>>
>>BTW, Becklin signed his works "Eric Becklin"  With a name like that he
>>can't be all wrong.
>>
>>So, Norbert, please share with us what you discover.  You may be onto
>>something that will change all the literature, butterflies and moths
>>
> alike.
> 
>>Cheers from Columbus Ohio where it is raining today, but not yet too
>>
> cold.
> 
>>Eric
>>
>>
>>Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Well of all the strange things --- browsing on the web it has come to
>>>
> my
> 
>>>attention that the correct authorship of a number of butterfly species
>>>attributed to Thunberg, 1791 may actually belong to Becklin, 1791.  It
>>>appears that C.P. Thunberg was merely the editor of "Dissertatio
>>>entomologica sistens insecta Svecica" and Becklin was the actual author
>>>
> of
> 
>>>the butterfly names.  Naturally this is worth following up to see which
>>>
> is
> 
>>>correct. Does anyone have access to this ancient publication ?? If so
>>>
> please
> 
>>>have a look and drop me a line to explain which authorship is correct
>>>
> and
> 
>>>why. Thank you.
>>>
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>Norbert Kondla  P.Biol., RPBio.
>>>Ministry of Sustainable Resource Management
>>>845 Columbia Avenue, Castlegar, British Columbia V1N 1H3
>>>Phone 250-365-8610
>>>Mailto:Norbert.Kondla at gems3.gov.bc.ca
>>>http://www.env.gov.bc.ca
>>>
> 
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