Paul gets but Kicked by Pat foley on Ecolog

[Bob Parcelles,Jr.]

Editor's Note:

This was posted on Ecolog in reply to Paul Cherubini's frequent,
repititous posts defending Pierre Dupont's ridiculous statements.
Paul has centered on attacking Foley and Ehrich even after Ehrich's
wife posts!  

YOU ARE ARE THERE TO SEE PAUL GET HIS ARSE KICKED GOOD BY PAT FOLEY!
:) . 

This is one of many posts countering Paul. Pete Dupont was getting
some middle of the roaders to express middle of the road views until
Paul jumped in. They recognize a non, anti, scientist when they see
one. 

Right on Ecologists of America. 
We come into the 21 st century with our eyes wide open. Instead of
wide shut!

See ya John Dupont, wherever they currentlyt have you under guard.
You would have made a good CEO. Maybe in the next life. 

rjp

++================> 
Ecologgers,

I would like to clarify my quote and express what I feel is a near
consensus in the "academic" ecology community.
1) Paul Ehrlich has done much good scientific work.
2) Paul Ehrlich has done great work in raising the spectres of
overpopulation, habitat loss, biodiversity loss and
resourceoverexploitation to the general public.
3) Paul Ehrlich has been wrong about the exact timing on many
crises,sometimes because his doomsaying has actually helped people to
recognizeand deal with the problems, sometimes because he was just
wrong.
4) Being wrong is an inevitable part of science. Our job is to get it
right. Let us do that.
5) The problems Paul Ehrlich has identified are real and need real
attention.
6) Pierre DuPont, Bjorn Lomberg and Paul Cherubini are not
scientists,nor are they trying to solve real problems. What do they
have to contribute? What is their agenda? Will they help fix the
world or just whine about Paul Ehrlich? There are real problems out
there.

Help fix them or go away

.Patrick Foley
patfoley at csus.edu

++======================>>

On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Paul Cherubini wrote

:> I think part of what Pete Dupont was complaining about is the
general> decline in academic integrity that seems to have occurred in
the 70's, 80's> and 90's  following Paul Ehrlich's Population Bomb
book.  I mean
> most academic professionals I have encountered appear to> support
Ehrlich for wildly overstating ecological threats 30 years ago.>
Example: today a government professional wrote me privately:
>> "Paul - while you don't say what your personal viewpoint on the
> Ehrlich issue is, I can guess it is not positive. I would agree
with
> Pat Foley that overstating dangers has its place when>
communicating with the blissfully complacent - it's how parent
s> keep their children from playing in the street, for instance!"
>> Nowadays overstating environmental threats seems to be the>
cultural norm. For example, consider some of the headlines
> we were reading three years ago:> 







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