[leps-talk] Why aren't Mexico's overwintering monarchs in the news yet this winter?

Grkovich, Alex agrkovich at tmpeng.com
Mon Feb 18 11:51:53 EST 2002


...and I'm seconding Mark's opinion. I am concerned that there's too much
money (and fame?) to be gained from all of this. I don't believe it, plain
and simple. And with a dangerous war going on, and terrorism, and bad
economy, the Monarch story all-of-a-sudden shows up on the first page? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Paul Cherubini [SMTP:monarch at saber.net]
> Sent:	Sunday, February 17, 2002 6:31 PM
> To:	MWalker at gensym.com
> Cc:	'Michael Gochfeld'; Johnson, Kurt; 'leps-l at lists.yale.edu';
> 'TILS-leps-talk at yahoogroups.com'
> Subject:	Re: [leps-talk] Why aren't Mexico's overwintering monarchs
> in the news   yet this winter?
> 
> Mark Walker wrote:
> 
> > I'm expressing my trouble with the frequency of these reports,
> > the bias of the reports towards doom and gloom, and the bothersome 
> > situation that the same names seem to be drawing as much attention
> > to the their guruship as to the fate of the Monarchs.  ...the data also 
> > suggests that these people are supporting a cause and not science. 
> 
> Mark, I agree and would like to provide an example of how the situation
> in Mexico gets exaggerated.
> 
> Every year Dr. Orley (Chip) Taylor publishes a Season Summary of the
> work of the Monarch Watch http://www.saber.net/~monarch/seasum.JPG
> 
> On page 4 of the 2000 Season Summary Dr. Taylor displayed this picture
> http://www.saber.net/~monarch/chivati.JPG and wrote this caption:
> 
> "Chivati is a severely deforested area near the monarch overwintering
> sites.
> This site was formerly a major roosting site for monarchs."
> 
> The casual reader would gain the impression that a major monarch
> overwintering site in Mexico had been wiped out by loggers.
> 
> But in reality the monarch site was not wiped out. Dr. Taylor's picture 
> shows only the north slope of the Chivati mountain and the monarchs 
> never clustered on these north slopes to begin with. The deforestation 
> was caused by forest fires, not some big clear cut logging operation.
> 
> The colony has always formed on the south slopes of Chivati. Now 
> it's true the specific trees the butterflies used to cluster on got 
> burned down, but the butterflies merely relocated to a unburned 
> patch of forest several hundred feet away on this same mountain.
> http://www.saber.net/~monarch/hchivati.JPG.  
> 
> Paul Cherubini
> 
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