was Monarchs: Eucalyptus.. now is exotics
MexicoDoug at aol.com
MexicoDoug at aol.com
Mon Jan 28 01:45:57 EST 2002
Interestingly enough, the introduced pine was a gift from Austrailia also, as
I understand. _Casurina_ It is somewhat a skin irritant as well as the bane
of humanity with its co-conspirator, the other tree that was introduced, the
paper tree, _Melaluca_, I think was also from Australia.
Actually,there were plenty of places for people to live in the Everglades
before the idea of draining it really took off. In the Hammocks. What more
of a beautiful style of life, than in a hammock, a higher land more matured
sawgrass/mangrove habitat turned into hardwoods. Islands everywhere in the
river of grass. Of course the mosquitos were unbearable as ever. The
escaped Indians and slaves didn't seem to mind their life in gator heaven.
It was the only place they could hide and their decendants still do after a
fashion.
In the Everglades proper, it has not been so long as 'centuries.' More like
less than a 'century.' Unless you count the periferal (non-Everglades east
coastal part) where the coontie (_Cycad.._) was first harvested and a few
orange groves were put up before Julia Tuttle's famous orange blossom
delivery in 1894-5.
The Mediterranian climate of California and all the settlement probably makle
it less likely to present the magnitude of a problem as in the 'Glades, but
(please tell me what they are called) rivers in portions of north-central
California are loaded with some lilac colored weeping willow like ornamental
from China that is as bad to the last remaining wild riparian places there
and pestulant as the casurinas, though on a different scale. I doubt they
will even be able to put a dent in the relatively smnaller Calif problem.
And that stupid ornamental was spread from do-gooder gardeners and
landscapers.
I have no opinion on the Eucalyptus except go native if there is any shot at
a native option. Of course, the "Golden Hills" of grass in california are
all imported European grasses and CA lost the battle in about 1820 to keep
anything close to native flora.
Doug Dawn
Monterrey, Mexico
En un mensaje con fecha 01/27/2002 9:11:47 AM Central Standard Time,
MWalker at gensym.com escribe:
<< I find this discussion on Monarchs and the fight over introducing more
Eucalyptus pretty interesting - especially in light of the ongoing problems
that exist in south Florida (where there has been a several centuries raping
of habitat through the introduction of exotic flora and fauna).
Here's my thought: we are probably arguing with passion two completely
separate issues here. Part of us wants to see more Monarchs at any cost -
perhaps even to the extent of putting them where they didn't occur before.
Another part of us understands that nothing remains the same when we start
moving things around that had previously taken eons to stabilize. Take the
eucalyptus problem in California. Nasty things only when you realize that
they don't belong here. While the stands never look natural here, I have
seen them provide shelter for Monarchs where the Monarchs would otherwise
not have been (not much Monterey Pine south of Santa Barbara).
Florida is another interesting case. There are thousands of acres of
introduced pine and other nasty exotics that thrive and have virtually taken
over parts of the Everglades. In fact, they were planted for just that
purpose - to suck up the swamp water and provide more dry land for
development (didn't they name a county after the guy who came up with THAT
idea?). Of course, there was virtually no place for people to live before
that, so it's all relative. The drying of south Florida provided habitat
for humans who further planted orchards and gardens - all which encouraged
and sustained a wide variety of creatures that would be reported for
generations by newly introduced "naturalists". Now virtually all of that
dry land is being consumed by development, so fewer of the bugs that have
been enjoyed there over the past 150 years are now disappearing. Meanwhile,
the swampland seems to be continuing to dry up. Foresters and other
wildlife officials are making an attempt to destroy much of the remaining
exotics - at least on parkland (as you travel you'll see stands of the dead
pine and, ironically, possibly mistake them for legitimate habitat loss).
Still, without the patchy dry land that exists along roadsides we probably
would never enjoy bugs like the great Euphyes skippers - which readily come
to exotic roadside nectar sources amongst the sea of swampgrass and palmetto
foodplant.
Much of the above is anecdotal - perhaps someone who is better at archiving
historical data can provide us with links to the real story.
Mark Walker.
Oceanside, CA
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