[leps-talk] value

Mark Walker MWalker at gensym.com
Sat Jun 1 21:59:42 EDT 2002


What an awesome post by Hank Brodkin.  I'm telling you, we could be on the
verge of a new lepping era - characterized by awareness, sensitivity, sound
judgment, and cooperation.

Ooops.  Am I being idealistically optimistic again?

Mark.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hank Brodkin [mailto:hbrodkin at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 9:25 AM
> To: leps-l; Tils
> Subject: Re: [leps-talk] value
> 
> Years ago, when we visited New Guinea for birds, we stopped off at the
> butterfly farm near Wau - that seemed to be quite an operation.  We were
> told that they raise and ship birdwings and Ulysses, and probably others
> all
> over the world.
> I am sure that farm is still in existence and probably many of the
> tropical
> specimens that are for sale come originally from farms like this which, I
> imagine, supply to distributors all over the world.
> This is a much more efficient method of supplying these bugs then our
> picture of a lone collector making his fortune by thrashing about in the
> tropical forests of the world.  Also these farms also provide employment
> for
> local people.
> Most of the folks on this list however would, I imagine, rather collect
> their own specimens, given a choice.  A lot more fun, a lot more
> educational, and a lot more satisfying than ordering from a catalogue.
> And we all need to let the tourism departments in tropical countries know
> the reason we are spending our tourist dollars there, whatever our
> interest.
> Perhaps this might
> get them to realize that it is worth saving their forests and other
> habitats.  Also it might ease the difficulty of obtaining permits that
> most
> of you seem to have to have for collecting in tropical countries.
> Perhaps they might even get the picture across to these well-meaning folks
> that it is the dwindling natural habitat that is causing these insects to
> become rare (if indeed they are becoming rare) - not because a few folks
> are
> taking butterflies
> --------------------
> Hank Brodkin
> Carr Canyon, Cochise County, AZ
> hbrodkin at earthlink.net
> SouthEast Arizona Butterfly Association (SEABA)
> http://www.naba.org/chapters/nabasa/home.html
> "Butterflies of Arizona - a Photographic Guide"
> by Bob Stewart, Priscilla Brodkin and Hank Brodkin
> http://home.earthlink.net/~hbrodkin/book.html
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Vaughn" <aa6g at aa6g.org>
> To: <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [leps-talk] value
> 
> 
> > Mark,
> >
> > > Incidentally, I paid $12 for the birdwing pair I bought from BioQuip -
> and
> > > that was painful enough.  I can assure you that the Red Sox will win a
> > > National Championship before I ever consider paying high dollar for a
> dead
> > > bug.
> >
> > That's very inexpensive! Have you ever checked out the birdwings at
> > Insect World? If not, you'll find it eye opening. :-)
> >
> > http://www.insectworld.com/info/index.asp
> >
> > Click on "Birdwings List."
> >
> > Chuck <aa6g at aa6g.org>
> >
> >
> >
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