Fw: Taxonomy With Technology- Red Adm.

[Guy Van de Poel & A. Kalus]

Niklas, have you read this ?

Guy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris J. Durden <drdn at mail.utexas.edu>
To: <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
Sent: woensdag 27 maart 2002 18:30
Subject: Re: Taxonomy With Technology- Red Adm.


> Neil,
>     Gestalt!
>     I have yet to isolate any of the truly diagnostic criteria. That is
why
> it will take some dedicated work (or some biochemistry or genetics) to lay
> this ghost to rest or resurrect it. The only place I have found *V.
> atalanta atalanta*- like individuals in North America (from James Bay to
> San Luis Potosi, from Lakehurst to Yellowstone, and from Cedar Key to
> Sycamore Canyon) has been Western North Carolina at higher elevations in
> the Blue Ridge. I have not yet seen anything like *V. atalanta rubria* in
> Britain, France, Italy, Spain or Morocco.
> ............Chris Durden
>
> At 04:53 PM 3/27/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >On Tuesday 26 March 2002 06:03 am, Chris J. Durden wrote:
> > > Yes there is a *Vanessa atalanta atalanta* - Red Admiral in Poland. It
has
> > > always been assumed to be conspecific with our *Vanessa atalanta
rubria* of
> > > North America. I suspect however that the latter is a lurking cryptic
> > > species, waiting to be "discovered" by some skeptic ornery enough to
do the
> > > research.
> > > ..............Chris Durden
> >
> >I have encountered this subspecific difference before. What are the
> >differences upon which it is based?
> >
> >--
> >Neil Jones- Neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk http://www.butterflyguy.com/
> >NOTE NEW WEB ADDRESS
> >"At some point I had to stand up and be counted. Who speaks for the
> >butterflies?" Andrew Lees - The quotation on his memorial at Crymlyn Bog
> >National Nature Reserve
>
>
>
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