FW: killing butterflies for fun???

[Kondla, Norbert FOR:EX]

Yes indeed, I see it much as Ron sees it. People who put up 'science' as the
only or even best answer to our human and conservation woes are putting up
religious and faith based positions. Sundry sciences certainly have their
place in the sun but they also have their dogma's and sometimes an inflated
view of their place in the sun. Neither science (sens lat.) nor religion
(sens lat.) will make decisions about what gets to share the planet with us.
Only people will make those decisions -- empedocles imperialis at it again
:-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Gatrelle [mailto:gatrelle at tils-ttr.org] 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:15 PM
To: Patrick Foley; Grkovich, Alex
Cc: LEPS-L at lists.yale.edu
Subject: Re: killing butterflies for fun???



----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Foley" <patfoley at csus.edu>
Subject: Re: killing butterflies for fun???


> Alex, Ron and other true-believers and witnesses to the truth,
>
> This is not a religion list. Nor is it an anti-religion list. Most of us
enjoy a
> "spirited" discussion, but we do not need preaching.

My references to abortion was scarcastic as Joseph had presented a
"pro-life" posture.  I was hoping most would catch this.

My addressing morality is because he - and lots of other people here - are
often bringing it up.  Morality IS my business.  That word does not exist
outside of religions implications.   It thus has no place on this list - I
never bring it up here, I do react to it.  Everytime anyone tries to inject
"morality / immorality"  into any aspect of lepidoptery they are injecting
religiosity - and thus judgment and  condemnation of those who hold an
opposite view.   This is why some posts here are so sanctimonious.

I agree with Pat completely.  Don't give me your "beliefs" or I will
definitely give you mine.  The problem is that some are putting up
"religious" and "faith" based positions and they don't even know it.

Ron



 
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