[leps-talk] MALE x FEMALE emergence

Woody Woods woody.woods at umb.edu
Mon May 20 20:08:20 EDT 2002


It would seem to prevent or at least reduce the inbreeding we might expect if the males and females emerged at the same time. Just why females rather than males first I dunno, but here's a long-shot thought: males in some insect species will wait for hatching females
but not commonly the other way around. For females to get a head start getting away before their brothers emerge would be in keeping with female choice, which is more common than male choice in mating systems. -Woody

Jorge Bizarro wrote:

> I using this post to start a new trend.
>
> In my experience, breeding highly gregarious species of leps (the type that eat together, rest together, pupate together, etc), it always happened that all females emerge in first place, with a window of 1-2 days of both sexxes emergence, and than the males at last.
>
> The bugs I've rear in these conditions are
>
> Euselasia eucerus (RiodiniDAE)
> Pereute swainsoni (Pieridae)
> Doxocopa zunilda (Nymphalidae)
>
> One exception is genus Actinote (males come first, BUT they give up gregarism at the last instars; by the way, generally MORE than FIVE!!).
>
> I bet Asterocampa comes with females first (voilá!).
>
> Does any one have a sugestion for this lep peculiarity??
>
> best wishes
>
> Jorge
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ron Gatrelle
>   To: Carolina Leps
>   Cc: leps-talk
>   Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 4:54 PM
>   Subject: [leps-talk] new record
>
>   The guess big news on my May 16 trip was the discovery of C. gorgone at
>   another site.  This colony is 15 miles from the Clay County population I
>   located last year at this time.   I wanted to check some new areas and
>   arrived at this location in Macon County at 8:00 AM.  It is a  cleared
>   narrow ridge crest at about 4000 + ft. (I forgot to take my altimeter).
>   It is on private property and I had to cross a fence line to get to it (No
>   no trespassing sign so in I went.)   About 8:30 there was enough sun and
>   warmth to start bringing stuff out.   There were a lot of very strange
>   monster Pearl Crescents (P. tharos) at this site (more on these later).   I
>   was very interested in these and so way paying a lot of attention to them.
>   Which is the biggest factor in why I noticed the female Gorgone.  It was
>   very fresh as I stirred it from the grass.  I spent 1 1/2 hrs looking for
>   more and saw none.
>
>   I also saw another fresh female over at the first site in Clay County late
>   in the day when I finally got over there.   The fact that another colony
>   has been found along with the thin numbers  - both last year and this -
>   indicates that this is likely wide spread (but local) in that region and
>   that it emerges slowly over several weeks and thus "a bunch" are never
>   found at one time.
>
>   The habitat at the new area was similar to the Clay Co. site only that is
>   was in primarily deciduous forest.   This new area is unfortunately in a
>   rapidly developing area and the ridge top is such a great view it is only a
>   matter of time till some wealthy person buys up the property, rips up the
>   environment, and builds their dream mountain home.  It has a super vierw.
>   Anyone want to help TILS buy this site?  Got to go.
>
>   Ron
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