visit to the Monarch reserves (long)

[Michael Gochfeld]

Taxa assigned to Danaus plexippus occur in the Old World as well.
Mike Gochfeld

Woody Woods wrote:

> So much attention is aimed at the Monarch population overwintering in
> Mexico-- what about the others? I don't mean to diminish the importance of
> attention to the best known and most studied populaton, but heck, there are
> Monarchs from eastern Canada to Pacific islands, no? Elsewhere?
>
> I can't help but wonder at the diversity of strategies these populations
> have evolved. I've mentioned the Costa Rican Monarchs before (all right, D.
> plexippus megalippe, but morphologically really hard to distinguish); they
> are reproductively active year-round, right through their altitudinal
> migration. A recent post about Monarchs came from the Caribbean (megalippe
> as I recall). Then there are the populations in the western U.S., which
> overwinter at higher temperatures than in Mexico; their energetics
> strategies are less well studied.
>
> And didn't I hear that they're in Hawaii?
>
> Strikes me that the variety of natural histories of various Monarch
> populations, which suggest that we might be watching examples of pretty
> incredible variation and evolutionary potential, is the truly interesting
> subject!
>
> Woody
>
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> > From: "Grkovich, Alex" <agrkovich at tmpeng.com>
> > Reply-To: agrkovich at tmpeng.com
> > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:14:03 -0500
> > To: "'Jim Taylor'" <drivingiron at earthlink.net>, monarch at saber.net, Leps-L
> > <LEPS-L at lists.yale.edu>
> > Subject: RE: visit to the Monarch reserves (long)
> >
> > So do I...last year was a great example...the "doom and gloom" of
> > disappearing Monarchs on their way to extinction from the big storm was
> > great big news, and no doubt sold a lot of newspapers and made a lot of
> > money. Yet, all of sudden, in September, Monarchs were everywhere, all over
> > the place. Golly.
> >
> > Now they seem to be very busy covering their behinds trying to say how
> > "remarkable" it is that they "somehow" rebounded.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jim Taylor [SMTP:drivingiron at earthlink.net]
> >> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:52 PM
> >> To: monarch at saber.net; Leps-L
> >> Subject: Re: visit to the Monarch reserves (long)
> >>
> >> I agree with what Paul says ON the list. He takes a great deal of flak,
> >> and
> >> I think he is frequently a helluva lot more accurate than some of his
> >> detractors.
> >>
> >> Jim Taylor (flame away.)
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Paul Cherubini" <monarch at saber.net>
> >> To: "Leps-L" <LEPS-L at lists.yale.edu>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:02 AM
> >> Subject: Re: visit to the Monarch reserves (long)
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jim Mason wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul,
> >>>>
> >>>> Get a life.
> >>>
> >>> Jim, believe it or not, people do write me occassionally off list
> >>> with comments like:
> >>>
> >>> "I frequently find your posts particularly "balancing" to the
> >>> regular environmental doom and gloom."
> >>>
> >>> Paul Cherubini
> >>>
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