visit to the Monarch reserves (long)

[David James]

And then there is Australia. I wrote a PhD thesis in 1984 which spawned a
about 10 scientific papers dealing with the monarch's adaptation to
overwintering in the more climatically benign environment of New South
Wales, Australia.....  It was remarkable to discover how the species had
developed new physiological and ecological strategies to adapt to its new
environment in just a little over 100 years.....


Dr David G. James,
Associate Professor,
Irrigated Agriculture Research and Extension Center,
Washington State University,
24106 North Bunn Road,
Prosser, WA 99350, USA

From: "Woody Woods" <woody.woods at umb.edu>
To: <agrkovich at tmpeng.com>; "'Jim Taylor'" <drivingiron at earthlink.net>;
<monarch at saber.net>; "Leps-L" <LEPS-L at lists.yale.edu>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: visit to the Monarch reserves (long)


> So much attention is aimed at the Monarch population overwintering in
> Mexico-- what about the others? I don't mean to diminish the importance of
> attention to the best known and most studied populaton, but heck, there
are
> Monarchs from eastern Canada to Pacific islands, no? Elsewhere?
>
> I can't help but wonder at the diversity of strategies these populations
> have evolved. I've mentioned the Costa Rican Monarchs before (all right,
D.
> plexippus megalippe, but morphologically really hard to distinguish); they
> are reproductively active year-round, right through their altitudinal
> migration. A recent post about Monarchs came from the Caribbean (megalippe
> as I recall). Then there are the populations in the western U.S., which
> overwinter at higher temperatures than in Mexico; their energetics
> strategies are less well studied.
>
> And didn't I hear that they're in Hawaii?
>
> Strikes me that the variety of natural histories of various Monarch
> populations, which suggest that we might be watching examples of pretty
> incredible variation and evolutionary potential, is the truly interesting
> subject!
>
> Woody
>
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> > From: "Grkovich, Alex" <agrkovich at tmpeng.com>
> > Reply-To: agrkovich at tmpeng.com
> > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:14:03 -0500
> > To: "'Jim Taylor'" <drivingiron at earthlink.net>, monarch at saber.net,
Leps-L
> > <LEPS-L at lists.yale.edu>
> > Subject: RE: visit to the Monarch reserves (long)
> >
> > So do I...last year was a great example...the "doom and gloom" of
> > disappearing Monarchs on their way to extinction from the big storm was
> > great big news, and no doubt sold a lot of newspapers and made a lot of
> > money. Yet, all of sudden, in September, Monarchs were everywhere, all
over
> > the place. Golly.
> >
> > Now they seem to be very busy covering their behinds trying to say how
> > "remarkable" it is that they "somehow" rebounded.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jim Taylor [SMTP:drivingiron at earthlink.net]
> >> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:52 PM
> >> To: monarch at saber.net; Leps-L
> >> Subject: Re: visit to the Monarch reserves (long)
> >>
> >> I agree with what Paul says ON the list. He takes a great deal of flak,
> >> and
> >> I think he is frequently a helluva lot more accurate than some of his
> >> detractors.
> >>
> >> Jim Taylor (flame away.)
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Paul Cherubini" <monarch at saber.net>
> >> To: "Leps-L" <LEPS-L at lists.yale.edu>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:02 AM
> >> Subject: Re: visit to the Monarch reserves (long)
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jim Mason wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Paul,
> >>>>
> >>>> Get a life.
> >>>
> >>> Jim, believe it or not, people do write me occassionally off list
> >>> with comments like:
> >>>
> >>> "I frequently find your posts particularly "balancing" to the
> >>> regular environmental doom and gloom."
> >>>
> >>> Paul Cherubini
> >>>
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