[leps-talk] Re: The enemy ants

James Taylor drivingiron at worldnet.att.net
Thu Nov 13 08:26:51 EST 2003


Suppose you have a bug in a program?
Jim Taylor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Bordelon" <legitintellexit at earthlink.net>
To: "Woody Woods" <woody.woods at umb.edu>; <patfoley at csus.edu>;
<agrkovich at tmpeng.com>
Cc: <stan_gorodenski at asualumni.org>; "Dr. James Adams"
<jadams at em.daltonstate.edu>; <TILS-leps-talk at yahoogroups.com>;
<TILS-moth-rah at yahoogroups.com>; <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [leps-talk] Re: The enemy ants


> Smart not to spray DEET on your computer stuff, dude...  cb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Woody Woods" <woody.woods at umb.edu>
> To: "Charles Bordelon" <legitintellexit at earthlink.net>;
<patfoley at csus.edu>;
> <agrkovich at tmpeng.com>
> Cc: <stan_gorodenski at asualumni.org>; "Dr. James Adams"
> <jadams at em.daltonstate.edu>; <TILS-leps-talk at yahoogroups.com>;
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [leps-talk] Re: The enemy ants
>
>
> Army ants, indeed-- I twice had a 2-3 foot wide band of them come through
an
> old wooden house I way staying in in Costa Rica (when you say "old" and
> "wooden" down there, it means that anything smaller than a wood rat can
just
> walk in). Just amazing to watch-- the first time, I was worried about my
> computers and other electronic gear, because some insects just seem to
love
> circuit boards; I sprayed a line of DEET right across the band, but after
a
> half minute of discombolulation they reassembled and continued as though
> nothing had happened.  Luckily these guys never went near the equipment.
> What was remarkable was watching how spiders, beetles and other ants came
> popping out of the planking chinks outside the house-- never knew I had so
> many roommates. What was even more amazing was that the army ants didn't
> touch some live butterflies I had in hanging cages or glassine envelopes
> awaiting measurement-- the whole event was so dramatic that I just plain
> forgot about them (their "army intelligence" could use some work!).
>
> The second time, I just let 'em rip-- think of it as housecleaning!
>
> Woody
>
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> > From: "Charles Bordelon" <legitintellexit at earthlink.net>
> > Reply-To: "Charles Bordelon" <legitintellexit at earthlink.net>
> > Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:54:15 -0600
> > To: <patfoley at csus.edu>, <agrkovich at tmpeng.com>
> > Cc: <stan_gorodenski at asualumni.org>, "Dr. James Adams"
> > <jadams at em.daltonstate.edu>, <TILS-leps-talk at yahoogroups.com>,
> > <TILS-moth-rah at yahoogroups.com>, <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
> > Subject: [leps-talk] Re: The enemy ants
> >
> > You guys shoulda seen what the army ants did at a sheet one night in
> > Ecuador.  There must have been 20 trails of them, all coming from
> different
> > directions.  The sheet was cleaned off in a matter of minutes.  Mark and
> > Mike, the guys running the sheet, elevated it from off the ground, and
> > sprayed 100% DEET around the perimeter.  Unbelieveably, it worked, but
> Mark
> > looked like he was about to cry by the time they got finished.  One of
the
> > doofi wasn't wearing any shoes.  Ouch...  cb
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick Foley" <patfoley at csus.edu>
> > To: <agrkovich at tmpeng.com>
> > Cc: <stan_gorodenski at asualumni.org>; "Dr. James Adams"
> > <jadams at em.daltonstate.edu>; <TILS-leps-talk at yahoogroups.com>;
> > <TILS-moth-rah at yahoogroups.com>; <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:20 PM
> > Subject: The enemy ants
> >
> >
> >> One odd trick I used to deal with ants in the tropics while spreading
> >> leps is this.
> >>
> >> I was carrying a Celestron 90 spotting scope case made of a flexible
> >> plastic. I used this case to carry 2 of the standard insect boxes. They
> >> fit perfectly in the case, and they were well protected. And the case
is
> >> very light.
> >>
> >> So when ants started in on my spreading boards, I put the boards in the
> >> case, in the sun. This dried out the specimens and protected them from
> >> the ants, but allowed moisture to escape.
> >>
> >> So my prescription for travelers is one Celestron 90 case (Adorama web
> >> site), 2 insect boxes (Bioquip) and two or three spreading boards.
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >> patfoley at csus.edu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Grkovich, Alex wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have had one very bad expeience with ants...so I'm more careful
> > now...My
> >>> boards are in a large clear plastic container, with the lid sealed
with
> >>> weatherproofing...lucky that I didn't lose anything too valuable...but
I
> > did
> >>> lose a very nice Hybrid Admiral (astyannax/arthemis)...
> >>> Alex
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Stanley A. Gorodenski [SMTP:stan_gorodenski at asualumni.org]
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:38 AM
> >>>> To: Dr. James Adams
> >>>> Cc: TILS-leps-talk at yahoogroups.com; TILS-moth-rah at yahoogroups.com;
> >>>> leps-l at lists.yale.edu
> >>>> Subject: Re: [moth-rah] why I prefer moths from Steve Johnson
> >>>>
> >>>> I had a similar problem once. I think it was a cricket or crickets
that
> >>>> did it. They are really vicious animals, at least in Arizona. Now I
put
> >>>> my boards either in the oven or in a plastic bag.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. James Adams wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> this far north.  The only drawback was that when I went to take the
> >>>>> specimen off the boards . . . AAAHH, something had *eaten* most of
it.
> > It
> >>>>
> >>>>> was the only moth on the board that was touched (isn't this one of
the
> >>>>> axiom's of Murphy's Law?). I don't think it was a mouse -- there are
> no
> >>>>> other indications that it was something that large and I believe it
> > would
> >>>>
> >>>>> have eaten a number of other things on the board. My guess is
> something
> >>>>> like a house centipede (Scutigiera sp.). There was a head and just
> > enough
> >>>>
> >>>>> thorax left to glue back to the pin and give me something to glue
the
> >>>>
> >>>> wings
> >>>>
> >>>>> to. Yeah, all four wings came through in reasonably decent shape. Oh
> >>>>
> >>>> well,
> >>>>
> >>>>> at least I still have an *identifiable* specimen -- as I mentioned
> > above,
> >>>>
> >>>>> it is my only one from Georgia.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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