Monarch Mexican Migration and land management

Patrick Foley patfoley at
Sat Nov 22 19:58:21 EST 2003


We have been over this before. Chevron and UC San Diego physical plants 
and PR people are not likely to be the most educated people on this 

Why don't you check the weed science literature?

Feral honey bee colonies are down compared to 15 years ago throughout 
the USA. But there are still plenty of hard-working beekeepers' bees. I 
cannot say what density they are at in Monarch wintering sites. A good 
question. Anyone know? Honey bees are still very common in the 
California Central Valley and foothills.


Paul Cherubini wrote:

> Pat Foley wrote:
>>Eucalyptus displaces native plants, spreads well in coastal fog drip
>>areas, allelopathically inhibits the growth of herbaceous understory
>>plants and is a serious fire hazard implicated in major fires in Oakland
>>and Santa Barbara.
> If eucalyptus is really a "serious fire hazard", then why has so much
> of it been planted on major college campuses in Calif. such as UC Santa
> Barbara, UC San Diego, etc.?  On it's website, UC San Diego even boasts 
> how the  "campus is forested with giant eucalyptus trees." 
> And why did Chevron plant eucalyptus groves around the perimeter of it's 
> huge oil refinery at El Segundo, CA and the refinery at Gaviota, CA?  
> Monarchs are actually clustering at this very moment by the hundreds 
> to thousands in the eucalyptus groves at both of these refineries. 
> If the eucalyptus was truly "a serious fire hazard" I can't imagine how
> any insurance company would write an affordable fire insurance policy for 
> the coastal UC campuses or the coastal Chevron oil and gas refineries.
> Also, since eucalyptus has been widely established along the California 
> coast  for the past 100 years, planting a few more new small 5 acre groves 
> here and there in urban and suburban setting to provide winter habitat for 
> the monarch is not going to cause any problem of "displacing native 
> plants".
>>California has over 1400 species of native bees, and any advantage 
>>we give to honeybees is a potential danger to the world's greatest 
>>diversity hotspot for bees
> Feral (wild) colonies of honeybees are rare along the California coast
> according to honeybee expert Adrian Wenner.
> Paul Cherubini
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