An Apology Re: Brower replies- The most recent ranting about monarch butterfly conservation
Stanley A. Gorodenski
stan_gorodenski at asualumni.org
Fri Oct 10 13:59:41 EDT 2003
I want to apologize to the members of this list (excluding Mr. Bordelon)
for the last sentence of my post. This sentence may inflame Mr. Bordelon
to further profanity and I am sure no one wants to read this stuff. I
should not have written it. My only defense is that I fell victem to the
profanity and flame Mr. Bordelon was spouting. If Mr. Bordelon does
reply, I will not respond which does not mean I agree with what he says.
I will, though, respond to any false science he may express in the
future, but for now this thread is dead for me with regard to Mr. Bordelon.
Stan
Stanley A. Gorodenski wrote:
> I like your responses as well as this one. I am sure you know the
> difference between a forecast (or projection) and an event. My
> response was primarily for the educational benefit of Mr. Bordelon.
> Stan
>
> Paul Cherubini wrote:
>
>> Stanley A. Gorodenski wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> You, or I, cannot forecast the economy of Mexico with 100%
>>> accuracy and so you cannot forecast the direction of logging and other
>>> destructive activities decades or a hundred or more years in the future
>>> with 100% accuracy no matter what your photographs may show.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Agreed, but in other parts of North American and the world, history
>> shows us that the logging that accompanies agricultural and
>> industrial development presents new opportunities as well as
>> potential problems for the monarch. Along the California coast, for
>> example, development removed some of the native pine, oak
>> and sycamore overwintering habitats the monarchs had been
>> using for centuries. However, new plantings of non-native
>> eucalyptus and other evergreen trees accompanied these same
>> developments and the monarchs switched over to these non-native
>> trees. Humans also inadvertently introduced the monarch to Spain,
>> Australia and New Zealand during the late 19th century. Guess
>> what happened? The annual migration / overwintering phenomenon
>> became established in those areas of the world as well. These
>> migrations are supported by non-native milkweeds that also became
>> introduced by accident. This is why biologists sometimes refer
>> to the monarch - including the migratory monarch - as a "weedy
>> opportunist".
>>
>> Paul Cherubini
>>
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