was:Monarchs now humanity
Bailey and Bjorklund
cmbb at sasktel.net
Tue Apr 12 18:28:37 EDT 2005
Gee,
I was hoping you guys would be going back to enlightening me about
butterflies
and not preaching to me.
Very frustrating trying to figure out who gets their truth from FOX or CNN
or the BBC.
Martin
back in the boondocks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Jones" <neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk>
To: <leps-l at lists.yale.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: was:Monarchs now humanity
> On Monday 11 April 2005 21:16, Hank Brodkin wrote:
> > My last word - then back to butterflies:
> > One can believe in God, Allah, Buddha, or whomever without belonging to
an
> > organized religion.
>
> Ah but the real question is which one? That is the point that Ron always
> avoids answering. Of course there isn't an answer.
>
> > I, being mostly uneducated, had never heard that quote
> > from Mr. Paine.
>
> May leading figures in American history had a degree of religious
skepticism
> including Abe Lincoln as I understand it.
>
> I guess I will have to read more of his works. I rebelled
> > at an early age against the idea of organized religion. In my mind no
one
> > has the authority to tell me what to believe, how to think, how to act
or
> > what is going to happen to me after I die. Each individual has the
> > God-given sense to figure those questions out for themselves. That being
> > said - the reason I admire pure science is that, in order to advance,
real
> > science has to continually question and challenge its precepts - or else
it
> > is not science, but dogma - as dogmatic as religion. Which is why I
> > believe in pure research and am never troubled by things like changing
the
> > genus and species of butterflies and other organisms if those changes
are
> > based on the scientific method. So flail away taxonomists and others
and
> > blessed are ye who constantly seek after truth unrestricted by the
anchors
> > of the past!
> >
> > Hank Brodkin
> > Carr Canyon, AZ
> > hbrodkin at cox.net
> > Butterflies of Arizona - a Photographic Guide
> > http://members.cox.net/hbrodkin
>
> --
> Neil Jones- Neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk http://www.butterflyguy.com/
> "At some point I had to stand up and be counted. Who speaks for the
> butterflies?" Andrew Lees - The quotation on his memorial at Crymlyn Bog
> National Nature Reserve.
>
>
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