leps Dplex nonsense

Neil Jones neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk
Tue Sep 12 14:02:18 EDT 2006


On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 19:13, viceroy at bellsouth.net wrote:
> Does anybody on the list know the background of this post, or what the
> heck it means? Anybody care to explain?
> 
> And aren't posters on the list supposed to sign their posts with name
> and location? 
> 
> Hugh
> 
> Hugh McGuinness
> The Ross School
> 18 Goodfriend Dr.
> East Hampton, NY 11963
> 631-907-5229 (no messages)
> 631-697-2099 (cell)
> 
> Fascinating. A lot of names from the past here, and an intriguing tale unfolds. 
> jewguy, soon to be expunged from our happy group, I would imagine, is confused about Mark Walker.
>  Mark has nothing much to do with the British Butterfly conservation group. I think he may be thinking of
>  Neil Jones. 

Entirely possible for someone living in such a confused and deluded
state.   Mark has been mildly critical of Schnauber in the past though.
Nothing to justify this sort of response of course.

I am copying this to the Monarch Watch list ( dplex-l) which also
received the original message.

> 
> Hans Schnauber, who appears to have been nailed to the wall for running a pyramid scheme, is known to us. 
> Back in '97 or so, he proposed to release some huge number of Monarchs, I think it was, on July Fourth. 
> This would, of course, conflict with NABA's count.
> When this was called to his attention, he explained that they could simply subtract the number of 
> butterflies he released from their count, no problem.
> 
> After that, things became increasingly irrational and hairy, and the various perfectly-respectable butterfly
> experts and groups cited may have been involved in Hans' butterfly schemes, in a negative sort of way, but
> have nothing to do with the alleged apparent pyramid scheme op. cit. 

It isn't just that. He started an organisation called the International
Federation of Butterfly Enthusiasts. The ludicrous grandiosity of the
name and the initial promotion was enough to make me steer well clear,
but others were not so careful. You may remember me parodying it as the
Pangalactic Association of Lepidoptera Specialists ( PALS). 

He has been involved in a number of rather dubious schemes. Selling
Milkweed as a cure for AIDS, butterflies as a confetti substitute, and
famously "cybersquatting". That is to say registering names of famous
companies for himself and telling the world's press that he was doing it
for the butterflies. I think this was connected to the pyramid scheme.

> So if you're wondering whatever became of good ole Hans, here's your answer. I rather think that he himself
> is jewboy. 

Yes, I strongly suspect you're right. It is very like the last rant
against me that I know was from one of Schnauber's numerous pseudonyms.
It is posted using the same route he uses and is very alike in language
to what I have seen before. He is, I believe, Jewish. Certainly one of
his  postings that I have seen goes on about the Talmud.

Since he uses the name "butterfly guy" I don't think he likes the fact I
own the domain name Butterflyguy.com .


> I trust Mark Walker has seen this posting and is aware of the misplaced animosity expressed therein. 

Poor Mark has my sympathy.

I have to say that I feel some sympathy for Schnauber , or who ever
"Jewboy" is. To be that confused and muddled must be a terrible feeling.
I know we all tend to laugh at these people as "Nuts", but may be we
would all do well to remember "There but for the grace of God go I".


> 
> "Jewboy" does not mention any scary friends with Uzis, vid. the late Bob Parcelles, but I'd wonder ...
> Anne Kilmer
> Mayo, Ireland and South Florida

Neil Jones
Neil at nwjones.demon.co.uk http://www.butterflyguy.com/


 
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