Need Help with ID's

Wed Jun 9 09:46:44 EDT 2010

Hi all I need some help with a couple moth ID's

Links:

http://frontiernet.net/~trgarden/TomMidda/DSCN3683a.jpg

This one I must be just overlooking when I page through my reference books.

Data:
Nobles County, Minnesota USA
June 7, 2010
wingspan 35mm

http://frontiernet.net/~trgarden/TomMidda/DSCN3690a.jpg

This moth I think is Acronicta americana but it is the darkest one I have 
ever come across.

Data:
Nobles County, Minnesota USA
June 7, 2010
Wingspan 55mm

Any help would be great
Thanks
Tom Middagh 

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