[Leps-l] [leps-talk] Monarch Armageddon
Paul Cherubini
monarch at saber.net
Wed Feb 20 14:45:19 EST 2013
On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Foley, Patrick wrote:
> Paul, I was not trying to reply to you, point for point, I was
> making some general points that undermine the view
> that Monarch releases are totally safe.
Pat, we're getting way off track from the three monarch
migration extinction questions at hand:
1) Is there credible scientific basis underlying the beliefs of
Dr. Brower, Oberhauser and Taylor that a few citizen scientists
like myself could inadvertently cause the collapse of the
whole eastern monarch migration-overwintering phenomenon
via shipping a few thousand wild field caught western
monarchs to the eastern USA?
2) Does professor Chip Taylor have a legitimate scientific
basis for telling the public and reporters that just because
there is less, but still alot, of milkweed growing on
midwestern farmland, the monarch migration could be
on the brink of collapse as he says or implies in these
videos?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZXGRZMrsDU
http://www.features.ku.edu/monarchs/
3) Does any credible science exist to support the contention
that temperatures in the overwintering region of Mexico
could conceivably increase by a staggering and
unprecedented 3-4 degrees during the next 18 years
and (Chip Taylor's words} "eliminate most of the suitable
areas for overwintering because it would eliminate the
oyamel fir trees."?
So far, after several days of discussion, we see the answers
to all three questions are No.
So it appears it's time to end this discussion - although
bearing in mind that a new round of "monarch migration
could be threatened" type articles is very likely to appear
in the popular press within the next 1-3 weeks (i.e. articles
in the New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe,
Los Angeles Times, etc).
Paul Cherubini
El Dorado, Calif.
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