[Mendele] Mendele Vol. 19.020
Victor Bers
victor.bers at yale.edu
Mon Feb 15 21:35:53 EST 2010
endele: Yiddish literature and language
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Contents of Vol. 19.020
February 15, 2010
1) Introducing www.YiddishPoetry.org (Andrew Firestone)
2) khisorn/shvartser ( Elye Palevsky)
3) Song lyrics sought (Yoyl Sartorius)
4) Bobover purim-shpil (Jeffrey Shandler)
5) Vincent Homolka's comments on "Finding the Jewish Shakespeare: the life
and legacy
of Jacob Gordin" (Beth Kaplan)
6) shul (Maurice Wolfthal)
7) gefilte fish (Perets Mett)
8) Yiddish aphorism (A.L. Rickman)
9)
1)----------------------------------------------------
Date: February 6, 2010
Subject: Introducing www.YiddishPoetry.org
With contributions from translators and poetry performers worldwide, and
with support from several Melbourne institutions - the Australian Centre
for the study of Jewish Civilizations (ACJC) at Monash University, the
Pnina Zylberman Fund, and the Kadimah National Library - we are pleased to
announce that the two existing websites, for the
poets Yisroel Shtern and Yossel Birstein, have been incorporated into
www.YiddishPoetry.org,together with /two new sections/:
1. a multilingual translation site with Yiddish readings, of the Yiddish
poetry of Poland between the two world wars. So far, poems by four poets
are on offer: Simkhe Dan, Maurycy Szymel, Miriam Ulinover, Aaron Zeitlin.
2. a section for contemporary Yiddish poetry. So far works by Yitzhok
Niborski and Sholem Berger can be found here.
Comments and enquiries are invited by the Editor, Andrew Firestone,
Melbourne.
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Khosheve fraynt,
Mir meldn aykh, az oyf dem veb-zaytl www.YiddishPoetry.org
http://www.yiddishpoetry.org, kent ir gefinen a naye opteylung. An
antalogye fun der yidisher poezye fun tsvishn beyde velt-melkhomes in
poyln, ibergezetst oyf english un frantsoyzish. Oyb ayer kompyuter iz
ayngeshtelt tsu hern, kent ir glaykhtsaytik leyenen un hern dos geleyente
durkh oysgeshulte leyener. Der program vert untergeshtitst durkh dem
"Monash" universitet, Yidishe Natsionale Bibliotek bay der "Kadimah" un
dem "Pnina Zylberman Fond" in Melbourne. A sakh arbet vert arayngeleygt
durkh genite iberzetser un leyener iber der gantser velt. Mir dervartn
oprufn un komentarn.
Redaktor, Andrew Firestone
2)----------------------------------------------------
Date: January 24, 2010
Subject: khisorn/shvartser
"Khisorn" means flaw or, more broadly, downside. There's an expression: a
khisorn di kale iz tsu sheyn ( the flaw is the bride is too lovely). It is
said when someone always finds flaw no matter how fine the object at hand.
In my Vilner/American born native Yiddish, "neger" was the appropriate
noun, despite its similarity in sound to the word nigger before the
supplanting of Negro by black and Afro-American. The use of the word "der
shvartser/di shvartse"- for domestic helpers, also, "di krstin" as in, "di
krstin kumt haynt ramen," in my opinion, reflects a social and economic
divide without pointed prejudice and may have the institution of "shabes
goy" as a sub-structure.
In addition, Yiddish frequently uses the locution of referring to a person
by an ascriptive identity in absence of a name and in a neutral manner
while at the same time reflecting a perception of an "us" and "them"
world, e.g. yener yid/goy kumt afn yarid yor ayn yor oys = That man (
Jew/gentile) comes to the fair year after year.
Elye Palevsky
3)----------------------------------------------------
Date: February 7, 2010
Subject: song lyrics sought
Mayn bobe hot mikh gelernt dos lid vos iz geshribn untn. Ken emetser dos
lid? Ikh vil visn di rikhtike verter un mer geshikhte vegn dem lid:
Ikh bin nit mekane
Laytishe glikn,
Abi tsu hobn
Vos tsu pikn?
A sheynem dank,
Yoyl Sartorius
4)----------------------------------------------------
Date: February 11, 2010
Subject: Bobover purim-shpil
I'd appreciate any information from Mendelistn about where/when this
year's Bobover Pruim-shpil will take place.
Many thanks,
Jeffrey Shandler
5)----------------------------------------------------
Date: January 26, 2010
Subject: Vincent Homolka's comments on "Finding the Jewish Shakespeare:
the life and legacy of Jacob Gordin"
Many thanks to Vincent Homolka for responding to a query about Jacob
Gordin's Elisha ben Avuya by quoting from my book "Finding the Jewish
Shakespeare: the life and legacy of Jacob Gordin," and for remarking that
the book is "a labor of love."
I need to clarify something, however. Homolka then advises the reader to
treat my book with "a degree of caution" in light of my disclaimer about
accountability and accuracy, which states, "There are periods of Gordin's
life about which very little is known. In order to create a vivid account
I have, based on research and reading, extrapolated my version of the
truth."
The disclaimer is unclear, I now see. It is the Russian period of Gordin's
life about which very little was known when I researched and wrote the
book, and so where I chose to deduce and extrapolate. We know, for
example, that Gordin had 2 sisters but almost nothing about them. Based on
family information, Russian-Jewish life at the time and their letters to
him stored at YIVO, I made some deductions about his upbringing and the
lives of his sisters. The disclaimer was to make clear that, for certain
aspects of Gordin's Russian period, my interpretation was a personal one.
A great deal is known about Gordin's life in America. In those sections,
such as that quoted by Homolka about Gordin's play Elisha, I told the
story as any biographer would, using information from newspaper clippings,
first hand accounts, and period documents. I labored with love, yes, but
mostly with reference books.
Yours sincerely,
Beth Kaplan
6)----------------------------------------------------
Date: January 24, 2010
Subject: shul
Can anyone shed some light on the origin of the use of the Yiddish word
"shul" or the Italian "sculoa" to mean a synagogue?
a sheynem dank!
Maurice Wolfthal
7)----------------------------------------------------
Date: February 1, 2010
Subject: gefilte fish
Does anyone know why the form "gefilte fish" exists only in the plural
and not in the singular?
Perets Mett
8)----------------------------------------------------
Date: January 24, 2010
Subject: Yiddish aphorism
I"m looking for a translation of a Yiddish aphorism. It was quoted to me
as "Shtam gram, makh mir a letnik." I have my own theories about this but
I want to find out what other people think.
Sincerely,
A.L.Rickman
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