[NHCOLL-L:3031] Fwd: Re: Fluid collections on compactor systems

[H.J. Walker]

One important thing to consider is floor loading.  Compactors are 
heavier and our shelving required 250 lbs/sq in; be sure to check 
before installation.  I also would recommend the mechanical rather 
than electrical compactors.  We've had no problems for five years.
Cheers,   H.J.

>Subject: [NHCOLL-L:3029] Re: Fluid collections on compactor systems
>Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 11:13:11 -0500
>Thread-Topic: [NHCOLL-L:3027] Re: Fluid collections on compactor systems
>Thread-Index: AcZZkUUQVcz/lQkpTUmcDtoHRcQhrQAA0YAg
>From: "Simmons, John E" <jsimmons at ku.edu>
>To: <gretcha at smm.org>, <JMacKnight at CINCYMUSEUM.ORG>,
>         "NHCOLL-L \(E-mail\)" <nhcoll-l at lists.yale.edu>,
>         "RCAAM \(E-mail\)" <rcaam at si-listserv.si.edu>
>
>Gretchen and Rebecca,
>You remember correctly.  There were two presentations back-to-back 
>by Kate Shaw and myself about our purpose-build building and 
>compactors for the fluid preserved collections.  Andy Bentley (who 
>replaced Kate here several years ago) has already responded that our 
>compactors work very well.  We have a wire-rack shelving system with 
>a galvanized metal mat over the rack.  The galvinzed mat is bored 
>out to 50% perforation for the sprinkler system.  If the shelving is 
>opened and closed properly, as Andy said, we get little or no jar 
>movement.
>
>John E. Simmons
>Collection Manager, Natural History Museum & Biodiversity Research Center
>and
>Director, Museum Studies Program
>University of Kansas
>Dyche Hall
>1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>Lawrence, Kansas 66045-7561
>Telephone 785-864-4508; FAX 785-864-5335
><mailto:jsimmons at ku.edu>jsimmons at ku.edu
>www.<http://nhm.ku.edu/herpetology/>nhm.ku.edu/herpetology/
><http://www.ku.edu/~museumst/>www.ku.edu/~museumst/
>
>From: owner-nhcoll-l at lists.yale.edu 
>[mailto:owner-nhcoll-l at lists.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Gretchen Anderson
>Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:40 AM
>To: JMacKnight at CINCYMUSEUM.ORG; NHCOLL-L (E-mail); RCAAM (E-mail)
>Subject: [NHCOLL-L:3027] Re: Fluid collections on compactor systems
>
>Hi Jane
>I know that Rebecca already answered you for SMM, but I am including 
>her comments for wider distribution, and adding my own:
>from Rebecca:
>Hi there,
>
>We use a compactor system for our fluid collections and have not had 
>any problems.  We installed them 5 or 6 years ago.   The shelves 
>have a small (approximately 1") lip at the edge.  We have lined the 
>shelves with a neoprene non slip pad called from PGC Scientific 
>http://www.pgcsci.com/online/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_mod=4208&CFID=160183&CFTOKEN=72360510
>
>The shelves and compactors are from Elecompack. http://www.elecompack.com/
>
>I recall a talk at SPNHC several years ago (when the meeting was in 
>Madison) by a collections manager from the University of Kansas 
>about their new wet collections storage which included compactors. 
>She described doing all sorts of "field testing" on the shelves to 
>try and smash them together or knock them over (in short, any abuse 
>an unsupervised college student might inflict) and was pleased with 
>the  stability and resiliency of the system.  I don't recall which 
>company they used.
>
>Good luck!
>Rebecca
>
>I would add that like Jean-Marc's at CMN ours are manual. Access is 
>easy, and the shelf lining helps. My only concern about the shelf 
>lining is that it does age and will need to be replaced at some 
>point. Also, keep on top of what the fire marshall is saying -- we 
>got stuck with a sunken floor with a grid on top of it -- made 
>laying the rails interesting and it is impossible to clean -- will 
>send photos if you wish.  Turns out this was probably due to 
>miscommunication between the architects and the fire marshall. We 
>love the system, except for the floor.
>
>Gretchen Anderson
>Conservator
>Science Museum of Minnesota
>
>
>At 08:56 AM 4/6/2006, Jane MacKnight wrote:
>
>We're looking at ways to expand our storage of fluid collections -- 
>fish and herps.  Currently all are stored on shelving in an 
>explosion-proof room (or whatever local building code requires). 
>The curator is considering a compactor system that would nearly 
>double the amount of useable space. 
>
>I am interested to know if anyone uses a compactor system for fluid 
>collections.  I know that compactor systems are relatively smooth 
>but I'm concerned that we could be introducing a new level of risk 
>to specimens in jars of alcohol.  I'd appreciate others experience 
>with fluid collections on compactors. 
>
>Thanks, Jane
>
>Jane MacKnight
>Registrar
>Cincinnati Museum Center
>T (513) 287-7092
>F (513) 455-7169
>Cell (513) 478-8168
>
>
>
>GREECE: SECRETS OF THE PAST is a sweeping OMNIMAX journey back in 
>time. The film sets out on a quest to uncover the buried secrets of 
>the Bronze and Golden Ages of ancient Greece. Using modern 
>archaeology, the film weaves a compelling story about this culture's 
>rapid progress in science, politics, philosophy, sports and art. Dig 
>for clues at Santorini, dive into the Aegean Sea to discover a 
>2,000-year-old statue of Poseidon, and witness a remarkable 
>re-creation of the Parthenon - this is classic OMNIMAX. For 
>information, tickets or to become a member of Cincinnati Museum 
>Center, call (513) 287-7000, (800) 733-2077 or visit 
>www.cincymuseum.org.


-- 
H.J. Walker, Jr.
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
University of California, San Diego  0208
La Jolla, CA   92093-0208
USA             hjwalker at ucsd.edu
phone:858-534-2199   fax:858-534-5306

FedEx, UPS, DHL:
8675 Discovery Way, 224 / 231 Vaughan Hall

SIO Marine Vertebrates Collection website:
http://collections.ucsd.edu/mv/
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/private/nhcoll-l/attachments/20060406/60734ade/attachment.html