[NHCOLL-L:5036] Re: Fwd: EU shipments

Tue Oct 26 03:37:25 EDT 2010

Sorry Carol, your answer is in parts misleading and incorrect.

For species protection issues, the statement "*scientific samples*" as 
description of goods in most of the commercial invoices issues in US 
Museums *is insufficient for customs clearance*; there are alone more 
then 800 protected snakes under CITES (excluding the in parts stricter 
European animal protection regulations). We need the scientific name (at 
least to familiy level for undetermined species) to facilitate the 
import regarding animal harmonised protection legislation of EC 
memberstates.

Concerning vet regulations:
The European veterinarian legislation is not harmonised, leading to a 
different implementation of the European laws in the single member 
states. Currently, a comprehensive amendment is discussed in Brussels, 
which stipulates in the current version the inspection of all animal 
from the class insecta and arachnida. We (CETAF & SPNHC) are lobbying 
against that with pretty good success at the moment, but there is no 
final decision so far.

What is clear already now, that we will need to improve our shipping 
docs / the documentation of the specimens shipped. A common standard for 
shipping docs was recommended in previous postings.

The assumption that your parcels with lizards sent to Germany would 
include living specimens might be due to lacking information regarding 
fixation and preservation of the specimens included. This information in 
vital for vets clearance and needs to be included on any commercial 
invoice or shipping dos.

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Greg,

regarding your specimens for Spain, please adjust the text from the 
attached shipping docs for your needs without changing the meaning of 
the text much. You need to include the following information to 
facilitate import and customs (animal protection issues) and vets clearance:

Include the scientific names either on the shipping doc, or better refer 
to an attached loan form (which makes clear, that the specimens included 
are state property)
Update the preservation/fixation information if necessary.
Change the Country of origin to (United States of America) if the 
specimens sent are from your collection; if you return specimens on 
loan, it should be Spain (EC specimens returned to a EC memberstate are 
not  subject for inspection under the current legislation - if 
inspected, costs can be claimed)

Please omit the information in the table of the shipping doc, as all 
information in there is ZSM specific.

All the best

Dirk

Am 25.10.2010 20:22, schrieb Carol Spencer:
>
> Hi Greg,
> We have sent items to Finland and Greece very recently and these did 
> not require any vet statements. Besides the correct labeling for 
> ethanol, we labeled everything "Scientific samples" and never say 
> anything like "Lizards", Salamanders etc. We did have something come 
> back from Germany a while ago because they thought it was a live 
> lizard. And we did have a problem with vet labels for China, but we 
> sent some more documentation and our researchers were able to get the 
> tissues.
> I am sending some specimens to Spain in a week, so would be interested 
> to hear from anyone about that.
>
> Cheers,
> Carol
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Watkins-Colwell, Gregory 
> <gregory.watkins-colwell at yale.edu 
> <mailto:gregory.watkins-colwell at yale.edu>> wrote:
>
>     I am about to ship some snake specimens to Spain.  I recall that
>     not long ago somebody said that EU shipments via FedEx now require
>     some sort of veterinary statement.  Is this still the case?
>
>     Greg
>
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>     Gregory J. Watkins-Colwell
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> Museum of Vertebrate Zoology
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