[NHCOLL-L:5809] Re: Question, - CITES renewal

[Carla Cicero]

Great, thanks Ellen!

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Ellen Paul <ellen.paul at verizon.net> wrote:

>  Funny you should ask. Charles and I were pondering that very question,
> and we couldn't come up with an answer, so I wrote to the CITES Office of
> Management Authority and asked them.
>
> Variations on the theme - what if you do have the permits at the time the
> COSE is renewed, but they later expire? The duration of the MBIE permit is
> a maximum of 5 years. The regulation that establishes the COSE has no
> stated duration. The analagous ESA reg/permit (3-200-40) is good for "the
> term stated on the face of the permit." So clearly, these things are never
> going to be in sync. There will be times when your COSE is valid but your
> other permits are not.
>
> When we have a response, I will share it with all.
>
> Ellen
>
> Ellen Paul
> Executive Director
> The Ornithological Council
> Email: ellen.paul at verizon.net
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>
>
> On 1/25/12 7:48 PM, Carla Cicero wrote:
>
> Hi Ellen - Thanks for the reply. The COSE is a blanket authorization for
> import/export of CITES specimens, and at the time of application, there may
> be no plans to import/export species regulated under these other Acts. So
> would we answer "No" at the time of applying for COSE renewal, with the
> realization that we would need to apply for a separate permit if necessary
> to cover marine mammals, T&E species, etc.?
>
>  Thanks,
> Carla
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Ellen Paul <ellen.paul at verizon.net>wrote:
>
>>
>>  What they are basically saying is that if you are using the COSE, you
>> still need to get the import/export permits if any of the species you are
>> importing are covered by these other laws. And so they don't want to issue
>> you a COSE unless you have the other required permits. Because when you use
>> the COSE, they don't clear/inspect. So they want to be sure that if the
>> import requires clearance/inspection for some other reason, it won't slip
>> by simply because you used a COSE.
>>
>


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