[Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon jars?
Alexandra M Snyder
amsnyder at unm.edu
Mon May 21 13:01:16 EDT 2012
Andy, I agree that the 120mm gallon jars were nice to
have for (some) wide bodied specimens, and especially
snakes. But I think you would agree with me that specimen
tanks can be a more efficient way organize and conserve
those wide bodied or larger specimens (fishes, amphibians,
and reptiles) without sacrificing rows and rows of shelves
to gallon jars holding single lots that can be tagged and
combined (systematically)into a tank. We have also found
that the (wider "foot print")gallon jars can be readily
replaced by the (narrower "foot print") 3-liter Le Parfait
for large lots of small fishes or tagged frogs and
lizards. Thereby, saving shelf space.
I would venture a guess that in the long run, budgeting
your annual costs to include the purchase of a few
specimen tanks each year rather than specialty specimen
jars (or even stock jars that can be used for larger
specimens) may prove a better way to spend the money and
conserve the specimens. (I.e., the temptation to fit a
specimen into a larger jar than is good for the specimen
rather than tag it and commit it to a tank, exposure to
light, etc.)
Best, Lex
On Mon, 21 May 2012 16:07:05 +0000
"Bentley, Andrew Charles" <abentley at ku.edu> wrote:
> Lex
>
> We too use the Le Parfait jars but unfortunately they
>have an even smaller opening and given the price of tanks
>nowadays, it was nice to have the 120mm gallons to house
>that class of specimens. The other options mentioned are
>decidedly more expensive and well out of the range of the
>budgets of most collections I know for regular specimen
>containers. They may be doable for a one off "special
>specimen" though.
>
> Andy
>
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> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
> Dyche Hall
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
> USA
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
> Email: abentley at ku.edu
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> -----Original Message-----
>From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
>[mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of
>Alexandra M Snyder
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:38 AM
> To: Dirk Neumann; Monaghan, Nigel
> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon
>jars?
>
>For over 25 years, I have used Le Parfait French captive
>lid canning jars for preservation of fishes. In the US
>there are several distributors of these jars. The
>following link lists European distributors:
> http://leparfait.com/list-of-outlets
>
> Used with the white 55 Duro Buna-N rubber gaskets (US
> manufacturer) instead of the orange gaskets (provided
>with jars), these make excellent specimen jars. The
>orange gaskets will hold up for a year or so but must be
>replaced more frequently than the Buna-N rubber gaskets.
>(Any residue left on the jar lid or rim from the old
>orange gasket must be completely removed before replacing
>with a new gasket.)
>
> The size range: 0.5 liter to 3.0 liter. Our practice is
>to put any specimen that is too large for the 3 liter jar
>into the stainless steel tank system rather than trying
>to find jars to fit over-sized specimens.
>
> Lex
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:10:42 +0200
> Dirk Neumann <Dirk.Neumann at zsm.mwn.de> wrote:
>> ... another one would be Stoezle Oberglas; compared to
>>the
>>glass-tube-melting option, prices of both suppliers are
>>considerably
>>higher for comparable large ground stopper glasses ....
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 21.05.2012 12:03, schrieb Monaghan, Nigel:
>>> Folks
>>>
>>> For those on the other side of the Atlantic there is a
>>>good (not
>>>cheap though) supplier in the UK in Dixon Glass. They
>>>also manufacture
>>>large containers from borosilicate glass.
>>> http://www.dixonglass.co.uk/bespoke-glassware/
>>>
>>> Nigel
>>>
>>> Mr Nigel T. Monaghan,
>>> Keeper,
>>> Natural History Division,
>>> National Museum of Ireland,
>>> Merrion Street,
>>> Dublin 2,
>>> IRELAND
>>>
>>> nmonaghan at museum.ie
>>> www.museum.ie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
>>>[mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of
>>>Dirk Neumann
>>> Sent: 18 May 2012 07:44
>>> To: Watters, Jessa L.
>>> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon
>>>jars?
>>>
>>> Dear Jessa,
>>>
>>> maybe I am coming up with an old idea for replacing
>>>(commercially
>>> produced) glass containers posted here already before,
>>>but perhaps
>>>still an alternative especially for large specimens (max.
>>>width: 300
>>>mm, max.
>>> [stable] hight: 1200 mm): it is possible to melt larger
>>>glass
>>>container from borosilicate glass tubes (see attached -
>>>glass holds
>>>two Australian lungfishes, dimensions of the glass are
>>>250x1000 mm).
>>>
>>> These glass tubes are produced by Schott Duran - and as
>>>far as I know
>>>- available in the US.
>>>
>>> Smaller glasses are possible either - we order regularly
>>>130x300 mm&
>>> 80x300 mm glasses from a local glassblower specialised
>>>on production
>>>of chemical instruments - these range about
>>>70-80 EUR including the grinded glass lids.
>>>
>>> For large rays we recently orderer glasses with 300x600
>>>mm.
>>>
>>> Problem surely is to find a glassblower who can handle
>>>this.
>>>
>>> Compared to commercially produced glasses much more
>>>expensive, but
>>>offers better glass quality (no weathering / corrosion
>>>like in
>>>soda-lime
>>> glass) and is - compared to plastic drums - still the
>>>better option.
>>>I compared prices on the SPNHC meeting in Leiden with
>>>similar large
>>>glass containers from Dixon glass (UK). Our price was 1/3
>>>of the Dixon
>>>price.
>>> Even though Dixon offered large ground stopper glasses
>>>and "our"
>>>glasses are closed "only" with grounded glass planes,
>>>this option is
>>>very attractive& competitive - regarding price&
>>> dimensions of the
>>>glass.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Dirk
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 16.05.2012 23:43, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
>>>> Jessa
>>>>
>>>> Numerous people have tried and failed to get these back
>>>>into
>>>>production. As far as I can tell there is no one out
>>>>there who is
>>>>still producing these and there is not enough volume of
>>>>need from the
>>>>natural history community to get them back into
>>>>production. I have
>>>>contacted our glass supplier (Kols Containers) and they
>>>>have
>>>>researched this without any luck. Only 110mm gallon jars
>>>>available
>>>>now...
>>>>
>>>> Sorry
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
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>>>> V V V
>>>> Andy Bentley
>>>> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>>>> University of Kansas
>>>> Biodiversity Institute
>>>> Dyche Hall
>>>> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>>>> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>>>> USA
>>>>
>>>> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>>>> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>>>> Email: abentley at ku.edu
>>>> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
>>>>[mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of
>>>>Watters,
>>>>Jessa L.
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:17 PM
>>>> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>>>> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon jars?
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone out there have a current vendor for 1 gallon
>>>>wide-mouth
>>>>(120mm) glass jars? It seems that everyone I talked to
>>>>hasn't
>>>>purchased them for years and those companies don't
>>>>produce them
>>>>anymore. Any help is appreciated!
>>>> Jessa
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jessa L. Watters
>>>> Collection Manager
>>>> Division of Herpetology
>>>> Sam Noble Oklahoma Museum of Natural History University
>>>>of Oklahoma
>>>> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
>>>> Norman, OK 73072
>>>> Phone: 405-325-7771
>>>> Fax: 405-325-7699
>>>> jwatters at ou.edu
>>>>
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