[Nhcoll-l] On the basis of photos

[Nancy Ruth Morin]

I think the point was that they were able to recognize that these were new species based on the photos.  The actual paper in which Magnolia rzedowskiana is named cites a holotype specimen, of course, as well as many other specimens studied.

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Without a specimen the new names are not validly published:

ICN 40.4. For the purpose of Art. 40, the type of a name of a new species or infraspecific taxon (fossils excepted: see Art. 8.5) may be an illustration prior to 1 January 2007; on or after that date, the type must be a specimen (except as provided in Art. 40.5).

Alan

On 3/24/2016 4:40 PM, Ellen Paul wrote:
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That's what the article implies. It suggests that the botanist never saw the plants in situ  and was not provided with specimens.

Ellen
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