[Nhcoll-l] [EXTERNAL] Re: Labels for Collection

Mon Mar 16 13:11:17 EDT 2020

Hello All:
I agree with 'never, never, never'  throwing away old labels.  Always save old labels whenever possible.
Cheers,
Joan

Joan Bacharach
Senior Curator
Museum Management Program
National Park Service
202.354.2015
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Erik Åhlander
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 11:16 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Nhcoll-l] Labels for Collection

Hi all,

I agree, especially with Joachim's "never never never". We don't know much about the technic of tomorrow. The chemistry of ink and paper might add to the information. This is especially true for the rare parchment labels!

Also I happened to have a jar on my desk. We keep old labels in plastic bags tied to the jar. IF the sprinkler system will be used it is better with a plastic cover than without - also if the plastic might harm the label. This is a specimen at least antedating 1754. The text at the uppermost printed label was administrated by Linnaeus about that year, but the specimen is older.

Best wishes,

Erik Åhlander
vertebrate zoology and museum history

ZOO
Swedish Museum of Natural History
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Ämne: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Labels for Collection

Hi Bernard,

I always like to re-attach old labels to their original jars where possible (after photographing them) - see below for an example I just happened to have on my desk.  I stick a band of archival adhesive paper around the jar, soak the original label until it softens up and then glue it to the backing paper.  It's always good to put a small strip of adhesive paper over the join as well to help prevent it falling off again in the future!

James

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James Maclaine
Senior Curator, Fish Section
Department of Life Sciences
The Natural History Museum
Cromwell Road
London SW7 5BD
U.K.

Phone: +44 (0) 20 7942 5761

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From: Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Joachim Haendel
Sent: 12 March 2020 14:29
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Labels for Collection

As Dirk said - old labels contain a lot of information, not just the writing.
At least in entomology the rule is: old labels are never never never thrown away.

Greetings
Joachim

---- Am 12 Mar 2020 um 13:54 Uhr schrieb Andrew Charles Bentley:

> Bernard
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> As I have posted many times on this listserv we have been very happy with our thermal transfer printer system for wet collections.  We have been using this system in our wet collections for over 15 years now and are still very happy with the results.  I can take a 15 year old label out of a jar and place it next to a brand newly printed one and can discern any difference between the two.  I have attached an email that contains all details regarding the system.  Let me know if you have questions after reading it.
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> As far as old labels, I would simply digitize them in high quality color and then discard.  In this day and age of digitization I don't see any utility to keeping old labels once you have captured the label digitally.  You are not losing anything.
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> Hope that helps
>
> Andy
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