[Nhcoll-l] Nhcoll-l Digest, Vol 119, Issue 5
Lecompte,Elise V
lecompte at flmnh.ufl.edu
Wed Apr 20 13:23:00 EDT 2022
Thank you everyone who responded to my two questions. It's all been very helpful and I value your help.
Elise
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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 13:09:33 +0000
From: Robert Waller <rw at protectheritage.com>
To: Kairo Z <hezhu1 at gmail.com>, Peter H Wimberger
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Thanks Kairo,
Similarly you can post this information to Museum Security Network, or send it to me and I will post for you, That way collecting institutions can be made aware and on the look out for items offered to them either for sale or tax credit.
Rob
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I'm involved in the private collections sector.
Do you have photos of the specimens stolen? I can put it out to the network of private collector and specimen markets out there and someone will report it if it shows up for sale.
Same with the fossils.
Photos of any identifying marks will help greatly.
It would probably be passed off as a vintage specimen if it comes up for sale, to get around questions about lack of paperwork.
The specimen collections community is large but very well connected. So if it spread widely enough, the minute it comes up for sale somebody would see it.
I don't have any current input for valuation. However pangolin specimens do exist in the hands of private collectors and transactions do occur. I'll reach out.
K
On Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 4:08 PM Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu<mailto:phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have a question about insurance valuations (a recent NHCOLL discussion topic) that suddenly got real for us. We loaned a few specimens to a travelling Art/Science exhibit including a small pangolin. The museum was burglarized in the middle of the night (glass windows and cases smashed) and multiple artworks and specimens were taken including a pangolin, a beaver and beaver skull and a fossil. I need to place a value on the pangolin, which is irreplaceable. What are practices surrounding placing value on specific specimens (as opposed to entire collections) that are for all intents and purposes, irreplaceable?
Are there murky places on the web where specimens are bought and sold where we could post the missing pangolin?
Thanks,
Peter
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Director, Slater Museum of Natural History
Professor, Biology
University of Puget Sound
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:19:29 +0100
From: Bethany Palumbo <bethanypalumbo at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural History Conservator Job (deadline
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Dear all,
The Natural History Museum of Denmark is seeking 2 experienced natural
history conservators to join the Conservation Unit and assist with the
preparation of objects for the new permanent galleries at the NHMD. The
position is available from July 1th 2022 or as soon thereafter. Currently
the position is funded for a 2-year period, with the possibility of an
extension. The main role of the conservators is to help the Head of
Conservation Unit with planning and undertaking varied object treatments,
and the supervision of interns and volunteers. The post holders will also
collaboratively create and maintain an online presence for the NHMD
Conservation Unit via various social media formats and through the creation
of an online blog.
The advertisement for this role and application link can be found at:
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Within Denmark it is usual practice for salaries to not be included in job
postings, but I asked HR and they have sent me the following guidance for
salaries (it is in Danish kroner!) :
The salary scale for Bachelors:
340,576 ? 401,145 dkk (includes pension)
The salary scale for Masters:
372,206 ? 453,541 dkk (includes pension)
The successful candidate will also have the opportunity to negotiate a pay
supplement on top of their salary for additional relevant experience. This
is done with the assistance of a Union representative.
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The deadline for applications is April 26th 2022
All the best
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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:40:01 +0000
From: "Lecompte,Elise V" <lecompte at flmnh.ufl.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Nhcoll-l Digest, Vol 119, Issue 4
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I have two questions to post:
1. Does anyone know of an appraiser that can value animal pelts? We received a call from an estate agent; of course, I told her that we cannot value or appraise objects, but I did send her the web links to the American Society of Appraisers and the International Society of Appraisers.
2. I received a call from a museum colleague here in Florida that needs to find a conservator or collections specialist that can advise them on conserving older fluid-preserved specimens. Does anyone have a suggestion?
Thanks, Elise
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2. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
3. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Battermann, Nora)
4. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Christy Bills)
5. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Fabian Neisskenwirth)
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7. Re: Drones around real specimens? (Robert Waller)
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9. Free, Online Course: Introduction to Photogrammetry, May 6th
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10. C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26! (Austin Mast)
11. Valuation of stolen specimens (Peter H Wimberger)
12. Re: Valuation of stolen specimens (Kairo Z)
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:22:50 +0000
From: "Jennifer C. Dreyer" <jcdrey at vims.edu>
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As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone. Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
Jenny Dreyer
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Virginia Institute of Marine Science
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Hi All,
I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The video is a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure. Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
Best,
Bill
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:29:32 +0000
From: "Bentley, Andrew Charles" <abentley at ku.edu>
To: "Jennifer C. Dreyer" <jcdrey at vims.edu>, "simpson at fieldmuseum.org"
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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Imagine being able to fly down an aisle of open drawers in a collection much like those iconic images from the Smithsonian. Something like that would be so much more engaging that a static image. Same goes for ethanol collection shelves or exhibits like our iconic panorama here at KU.
Now I need to put a bug in the ear of some drone pilots nearby ?. The closest we came was in using a snippet of some drone footage of the outside of our building for a collecting tour video we produced during COVID - https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mediahub.ku.edu_media_t_1-5F6i5a74g9&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=J0T0qHBUuy6b-gUn8SsYYj31lAjh_nJUtO9QansQyGM&e=
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Jennifer C. Dreyer
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 2:23 PM
To: simpson at fieldmuseum.org; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone. Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
Jenny Dreyer
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of William Simpson
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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Hi All,
I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The video is a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure. Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
Best,
Bill
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 21:30:15 +0200
From: "Battermann, Nora" <battermann at snsb.de>
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
Cheers,
Nora
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Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
>
> Jenny Dreyer
>
> ****************************************************
> Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> Research Manager
>
> Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> PO Box 1346 (mailing)
>
> 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> Phone: (804) 684-7903
>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> William Simpson
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
> --
>
> William F. Simpson (he)
> Head of Geological Collections
> McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> Gantz Family Collections Center
>
> Field Museum of Natural History
> 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> Chicago, IL. 60605
> (312) 665-7628
> fieldmuseum.org [1]
>
> [2]
>
>
>
> Links:
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:54:04 +0000
From: Christy Bills <cbills at umnh.utah.edu>
To: "Battermann, Nora" <battermann at snsb.de>,
"nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum (Natural History Museum of Utah).
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At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
We in collections and research were concerned that members of the public would see the cool video and then think that they could visit the museum and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting specimens at risk.
Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised interdepartmental relationships).
-Christy Bills
(she/her)
Invertebrates Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
Cheers,
Nora
---
Dr. Nora Battermann
Koordination Sammlungsassessment
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D-80539 M?nchen
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Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
>
> Jenny Dreyer
>
> ****************************************************
> Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> Research Manager
>
> Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> PO Box 1346 (mailing)
>
> 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> Phone: (804) 684-7903
>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> William Simpson
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
> --
>
> William F. Simpson (he)
> Head of Geological Collections
> McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> Gantz Family Collections Center
>
> Field Museum of Natural History
> 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> Chicago, IL. 60605
> (312) 665-7628
> fieldmuseum.org [1]
>
> [2]
>
>
>
> Links:
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:13:34 +0200
From: Fabian Neisskenwirth <info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de>
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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Hey there,
i think that drone videos are in fact a very nice possibility for
non-museum people to have a better look in a museums function. Specially
in collection that are not accessible for everyone. Here is a very nice
example done by the Montanhistorisches Dokumentationszentrum
(montan.dok) at the Deutsches Bergbau-Museum in Bochum, its not natural
history collections, but you will get the idea:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dvw2LDI186H8-3F&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=sCv8I87iI_DAiomg75jWVKwYvDaqgqgN-7IzCsDatlk&e= (the music is horrible, but
that's just a taste thing)
I think that if there is professional piloting done in companionship of
the local conservation team, the result can be very good for giving a
nice insight in the collections.
I can understand that sometimes it seems like new medias can be
challenging and seem to get just a sensational effect. But at the same
time we have to get the fact that it is 2022 and this kind of promotion
attracts (specially younger) people to get involved with collection work
and learn in some different way what museums do and why they are here for.
So from my point of view videos like this can be very helpful for
promotional use.
Off course a good plan of what and how it is going to be shoot is very
important for the safety of the collection.
All best and nice holidays to everyone,
Am 15.04.22 um 00:54 schrieb Christy Bills:
> I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum
> (Natural History Museum of Utah).
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
>
> At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with
> collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> We in collections and research were concerned that members of the
> public would see the cool video and then think that they could visit
> the museum and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting
> specimens at risk.
> Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised
> interdepartmental relationships).
>
> -Christy Bills
> (she/her)
> Invertebrates Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of
> Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
>
> ---
> Dr. Nora Battermann
> Koordination Sammlungsassessment
> ---------------------------
> Kaulbachstr. 37, III. Stock
> D-80539 M?nchen
>
> Telefon:
> +49 (0)174 2762445
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>
> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion.? I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> >
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> >
> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons.?? What do you all think of this?? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience.? I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > (312) 665-7628
> > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> >
> >? [2]
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
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> >
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:40:36 -0400 (EDT)
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 19:24:21 +0000
From: Robert Waller <rw at protectheritage.com>
To: Fabian Neisskenwirth <info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de>,
"nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Cc: Jane Henderson <HendersonLJ at cardiff.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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Hi Fabian,
Well stated.
What a great way to convey the size and diversity of collections. No doubt some risk is possible but, as you and others have well argued, it can be managed to a very low level. We can?t let imaginable possibilities prevent us from demonstrating collections in effective ways to the public (who usually, actually owns them.)
Jane Henderson and I have recently argued for not considering risks to collections independent from benefits of use. Abstract attached and video of presentation available on request.
Rob
From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Fabian Neisskenwirth
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 6:14 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
Hey there,
i think that drone videos are in fact a very nice possibility for non-museum people to have a better look in a museums function. Specially in collection that are not accessible for everyone. Here is a very nice example done by the Montanhistorisches Dokumentationszentrum (montan.dok) at the Deutsches Bergbau-Museum in Bochum, its not natural history collections, but you will get the idea:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dvw2LDI186H8&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=yI0DSmp5dcA-akPy4uNBLvylac0OJnztMXcpZKYSa8Q&e= (the music is horrible, but that's just a taste thing)
I think that if there is professional piloting done in companionship of the local conservation team, the result can be very good for giving a nice insight in the collections.
I can understand that sometimes it seems like new medias can be challenging and seem to get just a sensational effect. But at the same time we have to get the fact that it is 2022 and this kind of promotion attracts (specially younger) people to get involved with collection work and learn in some different way what museums do and why they are here for.
So from my point of view videos like this can be very helpful for promotional use.
Off course a good plan of what and how it is going to be shoot is very important for the safety of the collection.
All best and nice holidays to everyone,
Am 15.04.22 um 00:54 schrieb Christy Bills:
I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum (Natural History Museum of Utah).
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
We in collections and research were concerned that members of the public would see the cool video and then think that they could visit the museum and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting specimens at risk.
Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised interdepartmental relationships).
-Christy Bills
(she/her)
Invertebrates Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de><mailto:battermann at snsb.de>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
Cheers,
Nora
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Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
>
> Jenny Dreyer
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> William Simpson
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
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> Hi All,
>
> I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:25:31 -0700
From: Dean Pentcheff <pentcheff at gmail.com>
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on waterproof/washable keyboards for
lab work
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An alternative approach is to consider keyboards as cheap expendables.
We've taken that approach for a wet collection digitization project we've
been working on at volume in the past few months.
Recommended (no failures yet, despite sometimes wet hands): Logitech K380
(US$29.99 each).
Less recommended, but not horrible (a couple of failures): Arteck
Ultra-Slim Bluetooth (US$17.99 each).
-Dean
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 9:44 AM Fisher, Ryan PCS <ryan.fisher at gov.sk.ca>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We are considering shifting some of our pencil and paper data collection
> while doing vertebrate specimen preparation to a digital format. We are
> anticipating having laptops available (the laptops would be out of the way
> of the specimen preparation, so don?t necessarily need to be
> waterproof/washeable), but we are needing an external Bluetooth/wifi
> keyboard/mouse-trackpad that we can use to actually physically enter data.
> Of course, the data entry will be done while the specimen is being prepared
> so we need something that is washable and waterproof and can generally
> stand up to all of the fluids and fur/feathers that get on gloves and the
> preparation area. Just wondering if anyone has any advice on brands or
> options for this (or what you?ve tried and you recommend avoiding!).
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> *Ryan Fisher, **Ph.D. (he/him)*
>
>
>
> Curator of Vertebrate Zoology
>
> Royal Saskatchewan Museum
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> 2340 Albert St., Regina, SK S4P 2V7
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> (306) 519-5554
>
> Adjunct Professor University of Regina
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>
>
> Website: Ryan Fisher ? Royal Saskatchewan Museum (royalsaskmuseum.ca)
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 19:24:41 +0000
From: Lauren Cohen <lcohen3 at fsu.edu>
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Free, Online Course: Introduction to
Photogrammetry, May 6th from 3-5 ET
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We are excited to introduce the next professional development opportunity from iDigBio's Digitization Academy: a short, free, online course on photogrammetry. Photogrammetry is a method that can produce 3D models of organisms and their habitat for innovative use in research, education, science communication, and other activities. This course introduces biodiversity specimen collectors, curators, and other biodiversity researchers to photogrammetry with special, though not exclusive, emphasis on the documentation of specimens at the time of collection. We will introduce photogrammetry as a method of 3D modeling, the uses of photogrammetry, image capture for photogrammetry (especially in the field), an example software workflow that has been optimized for plant specimens (but is applicable to other types), sharing and archiving options, and additional high-value resources. The course is open to everyone from the biodiversity research and adjacent communities from around the world.
The course will occur on Friday, May 6, from 3?5 ET, and it will be led by Nicole James (Florida State University?s Department of Art), Alex Adkinson (FSU?s Department of Art), and Austin Mast (FSU?s Department of Biological Science and College of Communication and Information). The course will be presented in English. Questions can be directed to Lauren Cohen (lcohen3 at fsu.edu<mailto:lcohen3 at fsu.edu>; iDigBio?s Workforce Development Manager) and Austin Mast (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu>; Director of iDigBio?s Digitization, Workforce Development, and Citizen Science Domain).
To view the full course description, please visit:
https://www.idigbio.org/content/introduction-photogrammetry-biodiversity-specimen-collectors-and-curators
To register, please do so by this link:
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Warm Regards,
Lauren Cohen
Workforce Development Manager
Integrated Digitized Biocollections (iDigBio)
Florida State University
lcohen3 at fsu.edu
(412)818-6800
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:13:39 +0000
From: Austin Mast <amast at fsu.edu>
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Cc: Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
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Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations with the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May 23-26th. Registration is now open at
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals doing this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers, agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help you focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single, easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into a wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org<mailto:jennifer at citizenscience.org> or events at citizenscience.org<mailto:events at citizenscience.org>. Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu>).
Thanks for considering!
Austin
Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ? (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information & Scientific Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State University ? amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu> ? he/him
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:38:23 +0000
From: Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Valuation of stolen specimens
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Hello everyone,
I have a question about insurance valuations (a recent NHCOLL discussion topic) that suddenly got real for us. We loaned a few specimens to a travelling Art/Science exhibit including a small pangolin. The museum was burglarized in the middle of the night (glass windows and cases smashed) and multiple artworks and specimens were taken including a pangolin, a beaver and beaver skull and a fossil. I need to place a value on the pangolin, which is irreplaceable. What are practices surrounding placing value on specific specimens (as opposed to entire collections) that are for all intents and purposes, irreplaceable?
Are there murky places on the web where specimens are bought and sold where we could post the missing pangolin?
Thanks,
Peter
Peter Wimberger (he suite)
Director, Slater Museum of Natural History
Professor, Biology
University of Puget Sound
Tacoma, WA 98406
?living and working on the Homelands of the Puyallup Nation
From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Austin Mast
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 1:14 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Cc: Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
Caution: This email originated from outside the University of Puget Sound. Please exercise caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email.
Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations with the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May 23-26th. Registration is now open at
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals doing this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers, agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help you focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single, easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into a wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org<mailto:jennifer at citizenscience.org> or events at citizenscience.org<mailto:events at citizenscience.org>. Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu>).
Thanks for considering!
Austin
Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ? (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information & Scientific Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State University ? amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu> ? he/him
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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:46:46 -0700
From: Kairo Z <hezhu1 at gmail.com>
To: Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Valuation of stolen specimens
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I'm involved in the private collections sector.
Do you have photos of the specimens stolen? I can put it out to the network
of private collector and specimen markets out there and someone will report
it if it shows up for sale.
Same with the fossils.
Photos of any identifying marks will help greatly.
It would probably be passed off as a vintage specimen if it comes up for
sale, to get around questions about lack of paperwork.
The specimen collections community is large but very well connected. So if
it spread widely enough, the minute it comes up for sale somebody would see
it.
I don't have any current input for valuation. However pangolin specimens do
exist in the hands of private collectors and transactions do occur. I'll
reach out.
K
On Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 4:08 PM Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have a question about insurance valuations (a recent NHCOLL discussion
> topic) that suddenly got real for us. We loaned a few specimens to a
> travelling Art/Science exhibit including a small pangolin. The museum was
> burglarized in the middle of the night (glass windows and cases smashed)
> and multiple artworks and specimens were taken including a pangolin, a
> beaver and beaver skull and a fossil. I need to place a value on the
> pangolin, which is irreplaceable. What are practices surrounding placing
> value on specific specimens (as opposed to entire collections) that are for
> all intents and purposes, irreplaceable?
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> Are there murky places on the web where specimens are bought and sold
> where we could post the missing pangolin?
>
> Thanks,
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> Peter
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:17:44 +0000
From: Andrew Haycock <Andrew.Haycock at museumwales.ac.uk>
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: Marine Reptile Conference!! Registration
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For interest,
Many thanks,
Kind regards
Andrew
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 10:56:02 -0500
From: "Catherine Early (she/her)" <cearly at smm.org>
To: "Lecompte,Elise V" <lecompte at flmnh.ufl.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Nhcoll-l Digest, Vol 119, Issue 4
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Hi Elise,
John Simmons
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> received a call from an estate agent; of course, I told her that we cannot
> value or appraise objects, but I did send her the web links to the American
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> 11. Valuation of stolen specimens (Peter H Wimberger)
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> 13. FW: Marine Reptile Conference!! Registration deadline 29th
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> As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many of
> drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle avoidance
> systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in extremely close
> quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The obvious concern is the
> experience of the drone operator as already pointed out. That is a more
> relevant question in terms of responsibility of care. The benefits of
> promoting natural history collections with non-traditional ways of engaging
> people seems to outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now
> that I had some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my
> drone. Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a
> very interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> Jenny Dreyer
>
> ****************************************************
> Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> Research Manager
> Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> Email: jcdrey at vims.edu<mailto:jcdrey at vims.edu>
> Phone: (804) 684-7903
>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of William
> Simpson
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
>
> [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such as
> mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The video is
> a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message this sends to
> the public about a museum's attitude concerning its responsibilities for
> professional care vs increased public exposure. Do the benefits of such
> promotion justify this?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
> --
>
>
> William F. Simpson (he)
> Head of Geological Collections
> McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> Gantz Family Collections Center
>
> Field Museum of Natural History
> 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> Chicago, IL. 60605
> (312) 665-7628
> fieldmuseum.org<
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:29:32 +0000
> From: "Bentley, Andrew Charles" <abentley at ku.edu>
> To: "Jennifer C. Dreyer" <jcdrey at vims.edu>, "simpson at fieldmuseum.org"
> <simpson at fieldmuseum.org>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu"
> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> Imagine being able to fly down an aisle of open drawers in a collection
> much like those iconic images from the Smithsonian. Something like that
> would be so much more engaging that a static image. Same goes for ethanol
> collection shelves or exhibits like our iconic panorama here at KU.
>
> Now I need to put a bug in the ear of some drone pilots nearby ?. The
> closest we came was in using a snippet of some drone footage of the outside
> of our building for a collecting tour video we produced during COVID -
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> Andy
> A : A : A :
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> V V V
> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
> Dyche Hall
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
> USA<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
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> Tel: (785) 864-3863<tel:%28785%29%20864-3863>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335<tel:%28785%29%20864-5335>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Jennifer
> C. Dreyer
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: simpson at fieldmuseum.org; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many of
> drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle avoidance
> systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in extremely close
> quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The obvious concern is the
> experience of the drone operator as already pointed out. That is a more
> relevant question in terms of responsibility of care. The benefits of
> promoting natural history collections with non-traditional ways of engaging
> people seems to outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now
> that I had some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my
> drone. Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a
> very interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> Jenny Dreyer
>
> ****************************************************
> Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> Research Manager
> Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> Email: jcdrey at vims.edu<mailto:jcdrey at vims.edu>
> Phone: (804) 684-7903
>
>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of William Simpson
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
>
> [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such as
> mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The video is
> a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message this sends to
> the public about a museum's attitude concerning its responsibilities for
> professional care vs increased public exposure. Do the benefits of such
> promotion justify this?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
> --
>
>
> William F. Simpson (he)
> Head of Geological Collections
> McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> Gantz Family Collections Center
>
> Field Museum of Natural History
> 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> Chicago, IL. 60605
> (312) 665-7628
> fieldmuseum.org<
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 21:30:15 +0200
> From: "Battermann, Nora" <battermann at snsb.de>
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> Message-ID: <48f09c1ed0a4bff481a4a990477cb1bd at snsb.de>
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> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
>
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> Dr. Nora Battermann
> Koordination Sammlungsassessment
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> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> >
> >
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> >
> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > (312) 665-7628
> > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> >
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> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:54:04 +0000
> From: Christy Bills <cbills at umnh.utah.edu>
> To: "Battermann, Nora" <battermann at snsb.de>,
> "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum
> (Natural History Museum of Utah).
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
>
> At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with
> collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> We in collections and research were concerned that members of the public
> would see the cool video and then think that they could visit the museum
> and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting specimens at risk.
> Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised
> interdepartmental relationships).
>
> -Christy Bills
> (she/her)
> Invertebrates Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of
> Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
>
> ---
> Dr. Nora Battermann
> Koordination Sammlungsassessment
> ---------------------------
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> D-80539 M?nchen
>
> Telefon:
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>
> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> >
> >
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> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > (312) 665-7628
> > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:13:34 +0200
> From: Fabian Neisskenwirth <info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de>
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> Hey there,
>
>
> i think that drone videos are in fact a very nice possibility for
> non-museum people to have a better look in a museums function. Specially
> in collection that are not accessible for everyone. Here is a very nice
> example done by the Montanhistorisches Dokumentationszentrum
> (montan.dok) at the Deutsches Bergbau-Museum in Bochum, its not natural
> history collections, but you will get the idea:
>
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dvw2LDI186H8-3F&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=sCv8I87iI_DAiomg75jWVKwYvDaqgqgN-7IzCsDatlk&e=
> (the music is horrible, but
> that's just a taste thing)
>
>
> I think that if there is professional piloting done in companionship of
> the local conservation team, the result can be very good for giving a
> nice insight in the collections.
>
>
> I can understand that sometimes it seems like new medias can be
> challenging and seem to get just a sensational effect. But at the same
> time we have to get the fact that it is 2022 and this kind of promotion
> attracts (specially younger) people to get involved with collection work
> and learn in some different way what museums do and why they are here for.
>
>
> So from my point of view videos like this can be very helpful for
> promotional use.
>
>
> Off course a good plan of what and how it is going to be shoot is very
> important for the safety of the collection.
>
>
>
> All best and nice holidays to everyone,
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.04.22 um 00:54 schrieb Christy Bills:
> > I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum
> > (Natural History Museum of Utah).
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
> >
> > At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with
> > collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> > We in collections and research were concerned that members of the
> > public would see the cool video and then think that they could visit
> > the museum and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting
> > specimens at risk.
> > Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised
> > interdepartmental relationships).
> >
> > -Christy Bills
> > (she/her)
> > Invertebrates Collections Manager
> > Natural History Museum of Utah
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of
> > Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> > *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> > In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> > those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> > objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> > not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> > accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> > not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nora
> >
> > ---
> > Dr. Nora Battermann
> > Koordination Sammlungsassessment
> > ---------------------------
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> > D-80539 M?nchen
> >
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> >
> > Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion.? I only wish now that I had
> > > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jenny Dreyer
> > >
> > > ****************************************************
> > > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > > Research Manager
> > >
> > > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> > >
> > > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> > > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > > William Simpson
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > > as mounted dinosaur skeletons.?? What do you all think of this?? The
> > > video _is _a very engaging experience.? I am mulling over what message
> > > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > William F. Simpson (he)
> > > Head of Geological Collections
> > > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > > Gantz Family Collections Center
> > >
> > > Field Museum of Natural History
> > > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > > (312) 665-7628
> > > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> > >
> > >? [2]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Links:
> > > ------
> > > [1]
> > >
> >
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> >
> > > [2]
> > >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:40:36 -0400 (EDT)
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 19:24:21 +0000
> From: Robert Waller <rw at protectheritage.com>
> To: Fabian Neisskenwirth <info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de>,
> "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Cc: Jane Henderson <HendersonLJ at cardiff.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> Hi Fabian,
> Well stated.
> What a great way to convey the size and diversity of collections. No doubt
> some risk is possible but, as you and others have well argued, it can be
> managed to a very low level. We can?t let imaginable possibilities prevent
> us from demonstrating collections in effective ways to the public (who
> usually, actually owns them.)
> Jane Henderson and I have recently argued for not considering risks to
> collections independent from benefits of use. Abstract attached and video
> of presentation available on request.
> Rob
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Fabian
> Neisskenwirth
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 6:14 AM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
>
> Hey there,
>
>
>
> i think that drone videos are in fact a very nice possibility for
> non-museum people to have a better look in a museums function. Specially in
> collection that are not accessible for everyone. Here is a very nice
> example done by the Montanhistorisches Dokumentationszentrum (montan.dok)
> at the Deutsches Bergbau-Museum in Bochum, its not natural history
> collections, but you will get the idea:
>
>
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dvw2LDI186H8&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=yI0DSmp5dcA-akPy4uNBLvylac0OJnztMXcpZKYSa8Q&e=
> (the music is horrible, but that's just a taste thing)
>
>
>
> I think that if there is professional piloting done in companionship of
> the local conservation team, the result can be very good for giving a nice
> insight in the collections.
>
>
>
> I can understand that sometimes it seems like new medias can be
> challenging and seem to get just a sensational effect. But at the same time
> we have to get the fact that it is 2022 and this kind of promotion attracts
> (specially younger) people to get involved with collection work and learn
> in some different way what museums do and why they are here for.
>
>
>
> So from my point of view videos like this can be very helpful for
> promotional use.
>
>
>
> Off course a good plan of what and how it is going to be shoot is very
> important for the safety of the collection.
>
>
>
>
>
> All best and nice holidays to everyone,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.04.22 um 00:54 schrieb Christy Bills:
> I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum
> (Natural History Museum of Utah).
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
>
> At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with
> collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> We in collections and research were concerned that members of the public
> would see the cool video and then think that they could visit the museum
> and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting specimens at risk.
> Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised
> interdepartmental relationships).
>
> -Christy Bills
> (she/her)
> Invertebrates Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Battermann, Nora <
> battermann at snsb.de><mailto:battermann at snsb.de>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
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> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu<mailto:jcdrey at vims.edu>
> > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> >
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> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > (312) 665-7628
> > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:25:31 -0700
> From: Dean Pentcheff <pentcheff at gmail.com>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on waterproof/washable keyboards for
> lab work
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> An alternative approach is to consider keyboards as cheap expendables.
> We've taken that approach for a wet collection digitization project we've
> been working on at volume in the past few months.
>
> Recommended (no failures yet, despite sometimes wet hands): Logitech K380
> (US$29.99 each).
> Less recommended, but not horrible (a couple of failures): Arteck
> Ultra-Slim Bluetooth (US$17.99 each).
>
> -Dean
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> Dean Pentcheff
> pentcheff at gmail.com
> pentcheff at nhm.org <dpentche at nhm.org>
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> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 9:44 AM Fisher, Ryan PCS <ryan.fisher at gov.sk.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > We are considering shifting some of our pencil and paper data collection
> > while doing vertebrate specimen preparation to a digital format. We are
> > anticipating having laptops available (the laptops would be out of the
> way
> > of the specimen preparation, so don?t necessarily need to be
> > waterproof/washeable), but we are needing an external Bluetooth/wifi
> > keyboard/mouse-trackpad that we can use to actually physically enter
> data.
> > Of course, the data entry will be done while the specimen is being
> prepared
> > so we need something that is washable and waterproof and can generally
> > stand up to all of the fluids and fur/feathers that get on gloves and the
> > preparation area. Just wondering if anyone has any advice on brands or
> > options for this (or what you?ve tried and you recommend avoiding!).
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> > *Ryan Fisher, **Ph.D. (he/him)*
> >
> >
> >
> > Curator of Vertebrate Zoology
> >
> > Royal Saskatchewan Museum
> >
> > 2340 Albert St., Regina, SK S4P 2V7
> >
> > (306) 519-5554
> >
> > Adjunct Professor University of Regina
> >
> >
> >
> > Website: Ryan Fisher ? Royal Saskatchewan Museum (royalsaskmuseum.ca)
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> additional high-value resources. The course is open to everyone from the
> biodiversity research and adjacent communities from around the world.
> The course will occur on Friday, May 6, from 3?5 ET, and it will be led
> by Nicole James (Florida State University?s Department of Art), Alex
> Adkinson (FSU?s Department of Art), and Austin Mast (FSU?s Department of
> Biological Science and College of Communication and Information). The
> course will be presented in English. Questions can be directed to Lauren
> Cohen (lcohen3 at fsu.edu<mailto:lcohen3 at fsu.edu>; iDigBio?s Workforce
> Development Manager) and Austin Mast (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu>;
> Director of iDigBio?s Digitization, Workforce Development, and Citizen
> Science Domain).
>
> To view the full course description, please visit:
>
>
> https://www.idigbio.org/content/introduction-photogrammetry-biodiversity-specimen-collectors-and-curators
>
>
> To register, please do so by this link:
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__fsu.zoom.us_meeting_register_tJAldu6grDMoG9QiWmbVHLFRDzmanBYwr326&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=yhTXKYQv4hMmFUq_W4M1ouz9WpB11ZhdPp9t1X4eh14&e=
>
> Warm Regards,
>
>
> Lauren Cohen
> Workforce Development Manager
> Integrated Digitized Biocollections (iDigBio)
> Florida State University
> lcohen3 at fsu.edu
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:13:39 +0000
> From: Austin Mast <amast at fsu.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Cc: Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
> Message-ID: <5DA43BCD-FA75-4D6C-90A4-0CE7192AE5D9 at fsu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen
> science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations with
> the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May
> 23-26th. Registration is now open at
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
>
> This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes
> cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The
> platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals doing
> this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers,
> agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help you
> focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
>
> With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single,
> easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into a
> wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
>
> Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer
> Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org<mailto:jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> or events at citizenscience.org<mailto:events at citizenscience.org>.
> Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:
> amast at fsu.edu>).
>
> Thanks for considering!
>
> Austin
>
> Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium
> Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ?
> (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information & Scientific
> Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State
> University ? amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu> ? he/him
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:38:23 +0000
> From: Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Valuation of stolen specimens
> Message-ID: <c9e4c23878084e95b9e5a36e65e355af at wnmbs03.pugetsound.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hello everyone,
> I have a question about insurance valuations (a recent NHCOLL discussion
> topic) that suddenly got real for us. We loaned a few specimens to a
> travelling Art/Science exhibit including a small pangolin. The museum was
> burglarized in the middle of the night (glass windows and cases smashed)
> and multiple artworks and specimens were taken including a pangolin, a
> beaver and beaver skull and a fossil. I need to place a value on the
> pangolin, which is irreplaceable. What are practices surrounding placing
> value on specific specimens (as opposed to entire collections) that are for
> all intents and purposes, irreplaceable?
>
> Are there murky places on the web where specimens are bought and sold
> where we could post the missing pangolin?
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> Peter Wimberger (he suite)
> Director, Slater Museum of Natural History
> Professor, Biology
> University of Puget Sound
> Tacoma, WA 98406
>
> ?living and working on the Homelands of the Puyallup Nation
>
>
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Austin
> Mast
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 1:14 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Cc: Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
>
>
> Caution: This email originated from outside the University of Puget Sound.
> Please exercise caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or
> responding to this email.
> Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen
> science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations with
> the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May
> 23-26th. Registration is now open at
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
>
> This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes
> cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The
> platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals doing
> this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers,
> agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help you
> focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
>
> With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single,
> easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into a
> wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
>
> Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer
> Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org<mailto:jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> or events at citizenscience.org<mailto:events at citizenscience.org>.
> Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:
> amast at fsu.edu>).
>
> Thanks for considering!
>
> Austin
>
> Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium
> Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ?
> (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information & Scientific
> Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State
> University ? amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu> ? he/him
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:46:46 -0700
> From: Kairo Z <hezhu1 at gmail.com>
> To: Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Valuation of stolen specimens
> Message-ID:
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>
> I'm involved in the private collections sector.
>
> Do you have photos of the specimens stolen? I can put it out to the network
> of private collector and specimen markets out there and someone will report
> it if it shows up for sale.
>
> Same with the fossils.
>
> Photos of any identifying marks will help greatly.
>
> It would probably be passed off as a vintage specimen if it comes up for
> sale, to get around questions about lack of paperwork.
>
> The specimen collections community is large but very well connected. So if
> it spread widely enough, the minute it comes up for sale somebody would see
> it.
>
> I don't have any current input for valuation. However pangolin specimens do
> exist in the hands of private collectors and transactions do occur. I'll
> reach out.
>
>
> K
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 4:08 PM Peter H Wimberger <
> phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have a question about insurance valuations (a recent NHCOLL discussion
> > topic) that suddenly got real for us. We loaned a few specimens to a
> > travelling Art/Science exhibit including a small pangolin. The museum
> was
> > burglarized in the middle of the night (glass windows and cases smashed)
> > and multiple artworks and specimens were taken including a pangolin, a
> > beaver and beaver skull and a fossil. I need to place a value on the
> > pangolin, which is irreplaceable. What are practices surrounding placing
> > value on specific specimens (as opposed to entire collections) that are
> for
> > all intents and purposes, irreplaceable?
> >
> >
> >
> > Are there murky places on the web where specimens are bought and sold
> > where we could post the missing pangolin?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > *Peter Wimberger (he suite)*
> >
> > Director, Slater Museum of Natural History
> >
> > Professor, Biology
> >
> > University of Puget Sound
> >
> > Tacoma, WA 98406
> >
> >
> >
> > ?living and working on the Homelands of the Puyallup Nation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of
> *Austin
> > Mast
> > *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2022 1:14 PM
> > *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > *Cc:* Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> > *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
> >
> >
> >
> > *Caution:* This email originated from outside the University of Puget
> > Sound. Please exercise caution when opening attachments, clicking links,
> or
> > responding to this email.
> >
> > Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen
> > science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations
> with
> > the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May
> > 23-26th. Registration is now open at
> >
> >
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
> >
> >
> > This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes
> > cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The
> > platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals
> doing
> > this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers,
> > agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help
> you
> > focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
> >
> > With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single,
> > easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into
> a
> > wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
> >
> > Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer
> > Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org or events at citizenscience.org.
> > Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu).
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for considering!
> >
> >
> >
> > Austin
> >
> >
> >
> > *Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium
> > Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ?
> > (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information &
> Scientific
> > Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State
> > University ? amast at fsu.edu <amast at fsu.edu> ? he/him*
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:17:44 +0000
> From: Andrew Haycock <Andrew.Haycock at museumwales.ac.uk>
> To: " (nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu)" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: Marine Reptile Conference!! Registration
> deadline 29th April
> Message-ID:
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> For interest,
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Kind regards
> Andrew
>
> From: The Geological Curators Group mailing list <
> GEO-CURATORS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Emma Nicholls
> Sent: 13 April 2022 10:18
> To: GEO-CURATORS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Marine Reptile Conference!! Registration deadline 29th April
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> We are delighted to announce a half day 'mini' Marine Reptile Conference,
> in conjunction with the Geological Curators Group, that will take place
> online on 4th May 2022.
>
>
>
> The conference will comprise posters, oral presentations, and a live Q&A!
>
>
>
> For more information and to book your place, please follow this link:
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.geocurator.org_events_149-2Dmarine-2Dreptile-2Dmini-2Dconference&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=Vhl8ljcJHigLHSZvHcO51iYU7xTGGh4Yv26anpqN0bQ&e=
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>
>
> Registration closes 29th April 2022, but is first come first served.
>
>
>
> Please forward this email or the attached flier to anyone you think may be
> interested. Many thanks!
>
>
>
> With best wishes,
>
>
>
> Emma
>
> Marine Reptile Conference Committee
>
> Geological Curators Group Vice Chair and Blog Editor
>
>
> ---
> Dr Emma Nicholls, FGS
> Senior Curator of Natural Sciences
> Horniman Museum and Gardens
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> >
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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:27:17 +0100
From: Simon Moore <couteaufin at btinternet.com>
To: "Catherine Early (she/her)" <cearly at smm.org>
Cc: "Lecompte,Elise V" <lecompte at flmnh.ufl.edu>, NHCOLL-new
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I can also answer such questions with fluid-preserved specimens but am just going away for 10 days! John Simmons is most likely to be an excellent responder.
With all good wishes, Simon
Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,
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> On 19 Apr 2022, at 16:56, Catherine Early (she/her) <cearly at smm.org> wrote:
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> Hi Elise,
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> John Simmons is my go-to person for fluid-preserved specimen conservation. He is active on NHCOLL so he may have already seen your request.
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> On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 10:40 AM Lecompte,Elise V <lecompte at flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote:
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> 1. Does anyone know of an appraiser that can value animal pelts? We received a call from an estate agent; of course, I told her that we cannot value or appraise objects, but I did send her the web links to the American Society of Appraisers and the International Society of Appraisers.
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> 2. I received a call from a museum colleague here in Florida that needs to find a conservator or collections specialist that can advise them on conserving older fluid-preserved specimens. Does anyone have a suggestion?
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> Thanks, Elise
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:22:50 +0000
> From: "Jennifer C. Dreyer" <jcdrey at vims.edu>
> To: "simpson at fieldmuseum.org" <simpson at fieldmuseum.org>,
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> As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone. Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> Jenny Dreyer
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> Hi All,
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> I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The video is a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure. Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
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> From: "Bentley, Andrew Charles" <abentley at ku.edu>
> To: "Jennifer C. Dreyer" <jcdrey at vims.edu>, "simpson at fieldmuseum.org"
> <simpson at fieldmuseum.org>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu"
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> Imagine being able to fly down an aisle of open drawers in a collection much like those iconic images from the Smithsonian. Something like that would be so much more engaging that a static image. Same goes for ethanol collection shelves or exhibits like our iconic panorama here at KU.
>
> Now I need to put a bug in the ear of some drone pilots nearby ?. The closest we came was in using a snippet of some drone footage of the outside of our building for a collecting tour video we produced during COVID - https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mediahub.ku.edu_media_t_1-5F6i5a74g9&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=J0T0qHBUuy6b-gUn8SsYYj31lAjh_nJUtO9QansQyGM&e=
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Jennifer C. Dreyer
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 2:23 PM
> To: simpson at fieldmuseum.org; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone. Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> Jenny Dreyer
>
> ****************************************************
> Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> Research Manager
> Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> Email: jcdrey at vims.edu<mailto:jcdrey at vims.edu>
> Phone: (804) 684-7903
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of William Simpson
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
>
> [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The video is a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure. Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
> --
>
>
> William F. Simpson (he)
> Head of Geological Collections
> McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> Gantz Family Collections Center
>
> Field Museum of Natural History
> 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> Chicago, IL. 60605
> (312) 665-7628
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 21:30:15 +0200
> From: "Battermann, Nora" <battermann at snsb.de>
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> Message-ID: <48f09c1ed0a4bff481a4a990477cb1bd at snsb.de>
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> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
>
> ---
> Dr. Nora Battermann
> Koordination Sammlungsassessment
> ---------------------------
> Kaulbachstr. 37, III. Stock
> D-80539 M?nchen
>
> Telefon:
> +49 (0)174 2762445
> ---------------------------
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> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> >
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.vims.edu_about_directory_faculty_other_dreyer-5Fjc.php&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=NjgT-3ZqxuqyGuZiVUAu6m5HarNLmi5BfVTShyy82sc&e=
> >
> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > (312) 665-7628
> > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1]
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 22:54:04 +0000
> From: Christy Bills <cbills at umnh.utah.edu>
> To: "Battermann, Nora" <battermann at snsb.de>,
> "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> Message-ID:
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> I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum (Natural History Museum of Utah).
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
>
> At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> We in collections and research were concerned that members of the public would see the cool video and then think that they could visit the museum and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting specimens at risk.
> Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised interdepartmental relationships).
>
> -Christy Bills
> (she/her)
> Invertebrates Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
>
> ---
> Dr. Nora Battermann
> Koordination Sammlungsassessment
> ---------------------------
> Kaulbachstr. 37, III. Stock
> D-80539 M?nchen
>
> Telefon:
> +49 (0)174 2762445
> ---------------------------
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>
> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
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> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > (312) 665-7628
> > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> >
> > [2]
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1]
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:13:34 +0200
> From: Fabian Neisskenwirth <info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de>
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> Message-ID:
> <598f6fc1-e343-4c37-36d1-a43077744db3 at naturhistorische-konservierung.de>
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>
> Hey there,
>
>
> i think that drone videos are in fact a very nice possibility for
> non-museum people to have a better look in a museums function. Specially
> in collection that are not accessible for everyone. Here is a very nice
> example done by the Montanhistorisches Dokumentationszentrum
> (montan.dok) at the Deutsches Bergbau-Museum in Bochum, its not natural
> history collections, but you will get the idea:
>
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dvw2LDI186H8-3F&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=sCv8I87iI_DAiomg75jWVKwYvDaqgqgN-7IzCsDatlk&e= (the music is horrible, but
> that's just a taste thing)
>
>
> I think that if there is professional piloting done in companionship of
> the local conservation team, the result can be very good for giving a
> nice insight in the collections.
>
>
> I can understand that sometimes it seems like new medias can be
> challenging and seem to get just a sensational effect. But at the same
> time we have to get the fact that it is 2022 and this kind of promotion
> attracts (specially younger) people to get involved with collection work
> and learn in some different way what museums do and why they are here for.
>
>
> So from my point of view videos like this can be very helpful for
> promotional use.
>
>
> Off course a good plan of what and how it is going to be shoot is very
> important for the safety of the collection.
>
>
>
> All best and nice holidays to everyone,
>
>
>
>
> Am 15.04.22 um 00:54 schrieb Christy Bills:
> > I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum
> > (Natural History Museum of Utah).
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
> >
> > At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with
> > collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> > We in collections and research were concerned that members of the
> > public would see the cool video and then think that they could visit
> > the museum and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting
> > specimens at risk.
> > Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised
> > interdepartmental relationships).
> >
> > -Christy Bills
> > (she/her)
> > Invertebrates Collections Manager
> > Natural History Museum of Utah
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of
> > Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> > *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> > In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> > those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> > objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> > not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> > accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> > not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nora
> >
> > ---
> > Dr. Nora Battermann
> > Koordination Sammlungsassessment
> > ---------------------------
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> > D-80539 M?nchen
> >
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> > +49 (0)174 2762445
> > ---------------------------
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> >
> > Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion.? I only wish now that I had
> > > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jenny Dreyer
> > >
> > > ****************************************************
> > > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > > Research Manager
> > >
> > > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> > >
> > > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu
> > > Phone: (804) 684-7903
> > >
> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.vims.edu_about_directory_faculty_other_dreyer-5Fjc.php&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=NjgT-3ZqxuqyGuZiVUAu6m5HarNLmi5BfVTShyy82sc&e=
> > >
> > > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > > William Simpson
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > > as mounted dinosaur skeletons.?? What do you all think of this?? The
> > > video _is _a very engaging experience.? I am mulling over what message
> > > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > William F. Simpson (he)
> > > Head of Geological Collections
> > > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > > Gantz Family Collections Center
> > >
> > > Field Museum of Natural History
> > > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > > Chicago, IL. 60605
> > > (312) 665-7628
> > > fieldmuseum.org [1]
> > >
> > >? [2]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Links:
> > > ------
> > > [1]
> > >
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> > > [2]
> > >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 19:24:21 +0000
> From: Robert Waller <rw at protectheritage.com>
> To: Fabian Neisskenwirth <info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de>,
> "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Cc: Jane Henderson <HendersonLJ at cardiff.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
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> Hi Fabian,
> Well stated.
> What a great way to convey the size and diversity of collections. No doubt some risk is possible but, as you and others have well argued, it can be managed to a very low level. We can?t let imaginable possibilities prevent us from demonstrating collections in effective ways to the public (who usually, actually owns them.)
> Jane Henderson and I have recently argued for not considering risks to collections independent from benefits of use. Abstract attached and video of presentation available on request.
> Rob
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Fabian Neisskenwirth
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 6:14 AM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
>
> Hey there,
>
>
>
> i think that drone videos are in fact a very nice possibility for non-museum people to have a better look in a museums function. Specially in collection that are not accessible for everyone. Here is a very nice example done by the Montanhistorisches Dokumentationszentrum (montan.dok) at the Deutsches Bergbau-Museum in Bochum, its not natural history collections, but you will get the idea:
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> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dvw2LDI186H8&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=yI0DSmp5dcA-akPy4uNBLvylac0OJnztMXcpZKYSa8Q&e= (the music is horrible, but that's just a taste thing)
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> I think that if there is professional piloting done in companionship of the local conservation team, the result can be very good for giving a nice insight in the collections.
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>
> I can understand that sometimes it seems like new medias can be challenging and seem to get just a sensational effect. But at the same time we have to get the fact that it is 2022 and this kind of promotion attracts (specially younger) people to get involved with collection work and learn in some different way what museums do and why they are here for.
>
>
>
> So from my point of view videos like this can be very helpful for promotional use.
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> Off course a good plan of what and how it is going to be shoot is very important for the safety of the collection.
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> All best and nice holidays to everyone,
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> Am 15.04.22 um 00:54 schrieb Christy Bills:
> I'm afraid the video in question might have been filmed at my museum (Natural History Museum of Utah).
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gizmodo.com_a-2Dtiny-2Ddrone-2Dcarrying-2Da-2Ddeconstructed-2Dgopro-2Dcaptured-2Dth-2D1835201423&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=iY7zCDYPE7hROBqsQ6zk_QWRk57SWJx8NQ7f9vaxk6E&e=
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> At the time it was filmed our publicity folks forgot to clear it with collections staff and it did cause quite a stir, and a change in policy.
> We in collections and research were concerned that members of the public would see the cool video and then think that they could visit the museum and freely fly drones through the galleries, putting specimens at risk.
> Nothing was damaged during the filming (unless you count some bruised interdepartmental relationships).
>
> -Christy Bills
> (she/her)
> Invertebrates Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de><mailto:battermann at snsb.de>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:30 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
>
> In addition to what has already been said, I also doubt the majority of
> those viewing the videos would have any concerns about the safety of the
> objects. Most museums struggle with objects being touched when they are
> not supposed to be handled and I think that these days we are so
> accustomed to drone videos that many people would enjoy the views but
> not think about the risks, especially those outside the museum sector.
>
> Cheers,
> Nora
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> Am 2022-04-14 21:22, schrieb Jennifer C. Dreyer:
> > As a certified drone pilot myself and a curator for an invertebrate
> > collection I agree with Andy that it would be highly unlikely for any
> > damage to result from flying close to these types of specimens. Many
> > of drones available on the market have sophisticated obstacle
> > avoidance systems and experienced drone pilots can maneuver in
> > extremely close quarters with amazing accuracy (and speed). The
> > obvious concern is the experience of the drone operator as already
> > pointed out. That is a more relevant question in terms of
> > responsibility of care. The benefits of promoting natural history
> > collections with non-traditional ways of engaging people seems to
> > outweigh any potential risk in my opinion. I only wish now that I had
> > some cool, large invertebrate specimens to fly over with my drone.
> > Alas, most of my invertebrates are tiny and would not make for a very
> > interesting video. But a brilliant idea! I would love to see the link
> > to the video if you can share that. Thanks,
> >
> > Jenny Dreyer
> >
> > ****************************************************
> > Jennifer Dreyer (she/her)
> > Research Manager
> >
> > Curator of VIMS Invertebrate Collection
> > Virginia Institute of Marine Science
> > PO Box 1346 (mailing)
> >
> > 1370 Greate Rd. (shipping)
> > Gloucester Point, VA 23062
> > Email: jcdrey at vims.edu<mailto:jcdrey at vims.edu>
> > Phone: (804) 684-7903
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> > From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of
> > William Simpson
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:49 PM
> > To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> > Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drones around real specimens?
> >
> > [EXTERNAL to VIMS received message]
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I've just seen a promotional video taken by a drone flying inside a
> > natural history museum, including getting close to real specimens such
> > as mounted dinosaur skeletons. What do you all think of this? The
> > video _is _a very engaging experience. I am mulling over what message
> > this sends to the public about a museum's attitude concerning its
> > responsibilities for professional care vs increased public exposure.
> > Do the benefits of such promotion justify this?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > --
> >
> > William F. Simpson (he)
> > Head of Geological Collections
> > McCarter Collections Manager, Fossil Vertebrates
> > Gantz Family Collections Center
> >
> > Field Museum of Natural History
> > 1400 South DuSable Lake Shore Drive
> > Chicago, IL. 60605
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> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 21:25:31 -0700
> From: Dean Pentcheff <pentcheff at gmail.com>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on waterproof/washable keyboards for
> lab work
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> An alternative approach is to consider keyboards as cheap expendables.
> We've taken that approach for a wet collection digitization project we've
> been working on at volume in the past few months.
>
> Recommended (no failures yet, despite sometimes wet hands): Logitech K380
> (US$29.99 each).
> Less recommended, but not horrible (a couple of failures): Arteck
> Ultra-Slim Bluetooth (US$17.99 each).
>
> -Dean
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> Dean Pentcheff
> pentcheff at gmail.com
> pentcheff at nhm.org <dpentche at nhm.org>
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> On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 9:44 AM Fisher, Ryan PCS <ryan.fisher at gov.sk.ca>
> wrote:
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> > Hello,
> >
> > We are considering shifting some of our pencil and paper data collection
> > while doing vertebrate specimen preparation to a digital format. We are
> > anticipating having laptops available (the laptops would be out of the way
> > of the specimen preparation, so don?t necessarily need to be
> > waterproof/washeable), but we are needing an external Bluetooth/wifi
> > keyboard/mouse-trackpad that we can use to actually physically enter data.
> > Of course, the data entry will be done while the specimen is being prepared
> > so we need something that is washable and waterproof and can generally
> > stand up to all of the fluids and fur/feathers that get on gloves and the
> > preparation area. Just wondering if anyone has any advice on brands or
> > options for this (or what you?ve tried and you recommend avoiding!).
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> >
> >
> > *Ryan Fisher, **Ph.D. (he/him)*
> >
> >
> >
> > Curator of Vertebrate Zoology
> >
> > Royal Saskatchewan Museum
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> > 2340 Albert St., Regina, SK S4P 2V7
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> > (306) 519-5554
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> > Adjunct Professor University of Regina
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 19:24:41 +0000
> From: Lauren Cohen <lcohen3 at fsu.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Free, Online Course: Introduction to
> Photogrammetry, May 6th from 3-5 ET
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> We are excited to introduce the next professional development opportunity from iDigBio's Digitization Academy: a short, free, online course on photogrammetry. Photogrammetry is a method that can produce 3D models of organisms and their habitat for innovative use in research, education, science communication, and other activities. This course introduces biodiversity specimen collectors, curators, and other biodiversity researchers to photogrammetry with special, though not exclusive, emphasis on the documentation of specimens at the time of collection. We will introduce photogrammetry as a method of 3D modeling, the uses of photogrammetry, image capture for photogrammetry (especially in the field), an example software workflow that has been optimized for plant specimens (but is applicable to other types), sharing and archiving options, and additional high-value resources. The course is open to everyone from the biodiversity research and adjacent communities from around the world
.
> The course will occur on Friday, May 6, from 3?5 ET, and it will be led by Nicole James (Florida State University?s Department of Art), Alex Adkinson (FSU?s Department of Art), and Austin Mast (FSU?s Department of Biological Science and College of Communication and Information). The course will be presented in English. Questions can be directed to Lauren Cohen (lcohen3 at fsu.edu<mailto:lcohen3 at fsu.edu>; iDigBio?s Workforce Development Manager) and Austin Mast (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu>; Director of iDigBio?s Digitization, Workforce Development, and Citizen Science Domain).
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> To view the full course description, please visit:
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> https://www.idigbio.org/content/introduction-photogrammetry-biodiversity-specimen-collectors-and-curators
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> To register, please do so by this link:
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> Warm Regards,
>
>
> Lauren Cohen
> Workforce Development Manager
> Integrated Digitized Biocollections (iDigBio)
> Florida State University
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:13:39 +0000
> From: Austin Mast <amast at fsu.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Cc: Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
> Message-ID: <5DA43BCD-FA75-4D6C-90A4-0CE7192AE5D9 at fsu.edu>
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> Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations with the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May 23-26th. Registration is now open at
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
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> This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals doing this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers, agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help you focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
>
> With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single, easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into a wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
>
> Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org<mailto:jennifer at citizenscience.org> or events at citizenscience.org<mailto:events at citizenscience.org>. Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu>).
>
> Thanks for considering!
>
> Austin
>
> Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ? (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information & Scientific Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State University ? amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu> ? he/him
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:38:23 +0000
> From: Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Valuation of stolen specimens
> Message-ID: <c9e4c23878084e95b9e5a36e65e355af at wnmbs03.pugetsound.edu>
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> Hello everyone,
> I have a question about insurance valuations (a recent NHCOLL discussion topic) that suddenly got real for us. We loaned a few specimens to a travelling Art/Science exhibit including a small pangolin. The museum was burglarized in the middle of the night (glass windows and cases smashed) and multiple artworks and specimens were taken including a pangolin, a beaver and beaver skull and a fossil. I need to place a value on the pangolin, which is irreplaceable. What are practices surrounding placing value on specific specimens (as opposed to entire collections) that are for all intents and purposes, irreplaceable?
>
> Are there murky places on the web where specimens are bought and sold where we could post the missing pangolin?
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
> Peter Wimberger (he suite)
> Director, Slater Museum of Natural History
> Professor, Biology
> University of Puget Sound
> Tacoma, WA 98406
>
> ?living and working on the Homelands of the Puyallup Nation
>
>
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Austin Mast
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2022 1:14 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Cc: Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
>
>
> Caution: This email originated from outside the University of Puget Sound. Please exercise caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email.
> Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen science, community science, or other forms of research collaborations with the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May 23-26th. Registration is now open at
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
>
> This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals doing this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers, agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help you focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
>
> With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single, easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into a wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
>
> Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org<mailto:jennifer at citizenscience.org> or events at citizenscience.org<mailto:events at citizenscience.org>. Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu>).
>
> Thanks for considering!
>
> Austin
>
> Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ? (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information & Scientific Communication ? College of Communication and Information ? Florida State University ? amast at fsu.edu<mailto:amast at fsu.edu> ? he/him
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 22:46:46 -0700
> From: Kairo Z <hezhu1 at gmail.com>
> To: Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Valuation of stolen specimens
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> I'm involved in the private collections sector.
>
> Do you have photos of the specimens stolen? I can put it out to the network
> of private collector and specimen markets out there and someone will report
> it if it shows up for sale.
>
> Same with the fossils.
>
> Photos of any identifying marks will help greatly.
>
> It would probably be passed off as a vintage specimen if it comes up for
> sale, to get around questions about lack of paperwork.
>
> The specimen collections community is large but very well connected. So if
> it spread widely enough, the minute it comes up for sale somebody would see
> it.
>
> I don't have any current input for valuation. However pangolin specimens do
> exist in the hands of private collectors and transactions do occur. I'll
> reach out.
>
>
> K
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>
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 4:08 PM Peter H Wimberger <phwimberger at pugetsound.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have a question about insurance valuations (a recent NHCOLL discussion
> > topic) that suddenly got real for us. We loaned a few specimens to a
> > travelling Art/Science exhibit including a small pangolin. The museum was
> > burglarized in the middle of the night (glass windows and cases smashed)
> > and multiple artworks and specimens were taken including a pangolin, a
> > beaver and beaver skull and a fossil. I need to place a value on the
> > pangolin, which is irreplaceable. What are practices surrounding placing
> > value on specific specimens (as opposed to entire collections) that are for
> > all intents and purposes, irreplaceable?
> >
> >
> >
> > Are there murky places on the web where specimens are bought and sold
> > where we could post the missing pangolin?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > *Peter Wimberger (he suite)*
> >
> > Director, Slater Museum of Natural History
> >
> > Professor, Biology
> >
> > University of Puget Sound
> >
> > Tacoma, WA 98406
> >
> >
> >
> > ?living and working on the Homelands of the Puyallup Nation
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Austin
> > Mast
> > *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2022 1:14 PM
> > *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> > *Cc:* Jennifer Shirk <jennifer at citizenscience.org>
> > *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] C* Science 2022 Conference is May 23?26!
> >
> >
> >
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> > responding to this email.
> >
> > Hi, everyone! If your work involves (or if you are considering) citizen
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> > the public, please join me at the virtual C*Sci2022 conference, May
> > 23-26th. Registration is now open at
> >
> >
> >
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__citizenscience.org_c-2Dsci-2D2022_&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=yY9LSXhwRJHfNTtUjQwyDx2adblscaNa488KYfUJi-sIkzt7-WmBuGv3soZI6MgK&s=HX6VhFdx8XLtuTSejo5161Oks1FV1Zut5VtG1YHD68M&e=
> >
> >
> > This event, hosted by the Citizen Science Association (CSA), convenes
> > cross-disciplinary conversations that you won't hear anyplace else. The
> > platform is designed to connect you with other science professionals doing
> > this work, as well as engagement specialists, funders, app designers,
> > agency leaders, community members, and others whose expertise can help you
> > focus and enhance your research, education, and outreach.
> >
> > With the virtual event spanning just four half-days through a single,
> > easy-to-access connection it?s a low-stakes year to explore and tap into a
> > wealth of conversations happening across CSA.
> >
> > Questions? A good person to contact is the Executive Director, Jennifer
> > Shirk, at jennifer at citizenscience.org or events at citizenscience.org.
> > Alternatively, you can shoot them my way (amast at fsu.edu).
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for considering!
> >
> >
> >
> > Austin
> >
> >
> >
> > *Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium
> > Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ?
> > (850) 645-1500 ? Director ? Institute for Digital Information & Scientific
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> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 09:17:44 +0000
> From: Andrew Haycock <Andrew.Haycock at museumwales.ac.uk>
> To: " (nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu)" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: Marine Reptile Conference!! Registration
> deadline 29th April
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> Andrew
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> From: The Geological Curators Group mailing list <GEO-CURATORS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Emma Nicholls
> Sent: 13 April 2022 10:18
> To: GEO-CURATORS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Marine Reptile Conference!! Registration deadline 29th April
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> We are delighted to announce a half day 'mini' Marine Reptile Conference, in conjunction with the Geological Curators Group, that will take place online on 4th May 2022.
>
>
>
> The conference will comprise posters, oral presentations, and a live Q&A!
>
>
>
> For more information and to book your place, please follow this link:
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> Please forward this email or the attached flier to anyone you think may be interested. Many thanks!
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> With best wishes,
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> Emma
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 16:07:48 +0000
From: "Nelson,Gil" <gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu>
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Friday deadlines: 6th Annual Digital Data
Conference: May 23-25
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Abstract submission & Mentoring program Deadline Friday!
Sixth Annual Digital Data in Biodiversity Research Conference<https://www.idigbio.org/content/digital-data-2022-enhancing-advancing-quality-digitized-data>
The Field Museum in collaboration with iDigBio and the Natural Science Collections Alliance is pleased to announce the sixth annual Digital Data in Biodiversity Research Conference, to be hosted May 23-25, 2022. This year's event with be a virtual meeting. The conference will again provide an important opportunity to explore digital data tools, techniques, research protocols, discoveries, and outcomes across all biodiversity research domains.
Abstract Submissions
Options for submission include: discussion, oral, or poster presentations.
You must register to submit an abstract. The abstract submission link will be sent to you in your registration confirmation email.
Abstract submission deadline: 22 April 2022
Registration
Digital Data Conference Registration Fees*:
$100.00 for professionals
$50.00 for students.
*Registration fees are optional but encouraged. When registering, those who wish not to make a financial contribution to the conference will have that option. Although registration is optional, your registration information, even if you opt out of the fee, will allow us to keep you updated about conference activities. Registration fees will support the digital format technology, the editing and publication of abstracts, and keeping the conference sustainable.
Registration is open! Visit Eventbrite to register: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.eventbrite.com_e_6th-2Dannual-2Ddigital-2Ddata-2Din-2Dbiodiversity-2Dresearch-2Dconference-2Dtickets-2D252120779037&d=DwICAg&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=i0c5vJaMWi-2QhSY6xk_kJBCSeknwdfLcTpqwKfr_JQ&m=hZ2PguTSL4CND-tkgzKJUR2s12RANG3ID-aDOg5TBIoKfnMwbfV61bLST_d0-kGQ&s=lV8zOA47znYoj_z8v7vF9snKg0Yry50N3moo1x2ujdw&e=
Virtual Mentoring
Since we are virtual again this year we created a way to digitize some of that organic mentoring magic that happens at every conference through a new initiative: the Digital Data Mentorship Program. We will pair biodiversity professionals as mentors with emerging professionals and students as mentees and arrange an opportunity for them to speak informally about research, academia, careers, and beyond! If you are interested in serving as a mentor or participating as a mentee please select these options in the Digital Data Registration. Visit the mentoring advertisement page for more information.<https://www.idigbio.org/content/2022-digital-data-conference-mentoring-program> The deadline to sign up is also Friday, April 22nd.
Please watch for further announcements and program developments on the conference announcement page: https://www.idigbio.org/content/digital-data-2022-enhancing-advancing-quality-digitized-data
For further information or to ensure that you are on the conference email list, please contact Gil Nelson (gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu<mailto:gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu>) or Jill Goodwin (jgoodwin at floridamuseum.ufl.edu<mailto:jgoodwin at floridamuseum.ufl.edu>) at iDigBio.
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