[Nhcoll-l] Electric 55 Gallon Drum Pumps?
John E Simmons
simmons.johne at gmail.com
Thu Apr 18 13:52:31 EDT 2024
One other consideration to keep in mind--the pump you select should be
acceptable to your local fire marshall, who interprets the fire code for
your institution. For example, even hand-operated pumps should be grounded
when in use, and just because a pump is rated for fuel does not mean that
it will be approved for pumping 96% ETOH in a small room. Checking first
might save you a lot of trouble on the next inspection of your facilities.
--John
John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
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Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:48 AM Gregory Schneider <ges at umich.edu> wrote:
> I bought this one from Grainger:
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> Greg Schneider
> Division of Reptiles and Amphibians
> Museum of Zoology
> Research Museums Center
> 3600 Varsity Drive
> University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108
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> ges at umich.edu
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> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 10:40 AM Shoobs, Nate <shoobs.1 at osu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> 4 people responded to me sending links to rotary drum pumps, and 3
>> responded with links to electric pumps. The people using electric pumps
>> have been using them for a while, and with no reported issues. Same with
>> the rotary pumps.
>>
>>
>>
>> All of the electric pumps linked were at least nominally designed to pump
>> “fuel” and/or ethanol. While I do try to be more careful with 95%, I doubt
>> that the electric pumps designed to pump gasoline are a significant risk
>> over a manual pump that might generate sparks via static electricity or
>> heat via friction. I don’t think our fire marshal would care either way
>> (Columbus fire code, or at least its enforcement, is pretty lax).
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I will try a rotary pump because they’re cheaper and probably
>> longer-lasting because of their simple mechanism.
>>
>> Thanks everyone!
>>
>> -Nate
>>
>> --
>>
>> [image: The Ohio State University]
>> *Nathaniel F. Shoobs*
>> Curator of Mollusks
>> College of Arts & Sciences Dept. of Evolution, Ecology, and Organismal
>> Biology
>> Museum of Biological Diversity, 1315 Kinnear Rd, Columbus, OH 43212
>> 614-688-1342 (Office)
>> mbd.osu.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 6:06 PM
>> *To: *Shoobs, Nate <shoobs.1 at osu.edu>, nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <
>> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
>> *Subject: *RE: Electric 55 Gallon Drum Pumps?
>>
>> Although now that I say that I just came across this that may work: https:
>> //www. zoro. com/tera-pump-ethanolmethanolbrake-cleaner-drum-pump-tredrume-ch/i/G403536219/
>> Andy A : A : A : }<(((_°>. ,. ,. ,. }<(((_°>. ,. ,. ,. }<)))_°> V
>>
>> Although now that I say that I just came across this that may work:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.zoro.com/tera-pump-ethanolmethanolbrake-cleaner-drum-pump-tredrume-ch/i/G403536219/
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.zoro.com/tera-pump-ethanolmethanolbrake-cleaner-drum-pump-tredrume-ch/i/G403536219/__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt67zWQh5g$>
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>>
>> Andy
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>> Andy Bentley
>> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>> University of Kansas
>> Biodiversity Institute
>>
>> Dyche Hall
>> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>> USA
>>
>> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>> Email: abentley at ku.edu
>>
>> ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt6JkR4Mbw$>
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>> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
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>> *From:* Bentley, Andrew Charles
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2024 5:04 PM
>> *To:* Shoobs, Nate <shoobs.1 at osu.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* RE: Electric 55 Gallon Drum Pumps?
>>
>>
>>
>> Nate
>>
>>
>>
>> There are very few electric drum pumps that are rated for flammable
>> materials for obvious reasons (electricity and flames don’t mix). In order
>> to make them flammable proof they are made a lot more expensive and so we
>> have never gone that route. We have been using one of these for some time
>> and, although manual, it does a great job and gets right down to the last
>> dregs.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.uline.com/BL_2095/FM-Approved-Rotary-Drum-Pump
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.uline.com/BL_2095/FM-Approved-Rotary-Drum-Pump__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt6TW1mQ-A$>
>>
>>
>>
>> They do also have electric drum pumps at Uline but I would check to
>> ensure compatibility with 95% ethanol
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.uline.com/BL_769/Electric-Drum-Pumps
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.uline.com/BL_769/Electric-Drum-Pumps__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt7Sgm8QzA$>
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> A : A : A :
>> }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°>
>> V V V
>> Andy Bentley
>> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>> University of Kansas
>> Biodiversity Institute
>>
>> Dyche Hall
>> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>> USA
>>
>> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>> Email: abentley at ku.edu
>>
>> ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt6JkR4Mbw$>
>>
>> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/__;!!KGKeukY!x-fBshEnjE_5b5aqMejp8-7zd60lAWDbo772ap6lf9ykm1k__gjzzyZhH4v2pW08LU9rsL3XEt4J-oVp_A$>
>>
>> A : A : A :
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>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Shoobs,
>> Nate
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 16, 2024 2:42 PM
>> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Electric 55 Gallon Drum Pumps?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We buy our ethanol in 55 gallon drums at 95% concentration, which we then
>> dilute down to 70~75% in smaller carboys. To transfer the ethanol we have
>> thus far just been using a manual siphon pump, but are not totally
>> satisfied with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The issue is that as we get below 25 gallons remaining, it becomes
>> difficult for students to do the pumping (as the level in the drum
>> approaches the level of the fill line in the carboys). Most of my students
>> are not strong enough to lift the drums at ¼ to ½ full, so usually, I have
>> to assist them when mixing the latter half of every drum. This is a huge
>> time suck, so I’m looking for a better alternative.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Does anyone out there use an electric pump for 55 gallon drums?* I see
>> many options online on amazon etc, but a lot of them have poor reviews. Our
>> ethanol storage room has outlets, so it doesn’t need to be battery
>> operated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Nate
>>
>> --
>>
>> [image: The Ohio State University]
>> *Nathaniel F. Shoobs*
>> Curator of Mollusks
>> College of Arts & Sciences Dept. of Evolution, Ecology, and Organismal
>> Biology
>> Museum of Biological Diversity, 1315 Kinnear Rd, Columbus, OH 43212
>> 614-688-1342 (Office)
>> mbd.osu.edu
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