[Nhcoll-l] Skeleton preservation

[Simon Moore]

Hi Sergio,

I think you will find you can get it on your local Amazon? 
You should just be able to spray it  on the bones. I cannot vouch for it having never needed to try it out but might be worth a try!

Best wishes, Simon

Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian.

www.natural-history-conservation.com



> On 12 Nov 2024, at 19:09, Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Verity, for your help. I can try the technique you recommended on the larger bones, but it’s difficult to apply to smaller bones, like those of the hand and vertebrae. I’ll give it a try and see the results. Thanks again for your help.
> Simon, OdorXit sounds like a good option, but I think it might be a bit hard to find here in Europe.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Sergio
>  De: Mathis,Verity L <vmathis at flmnh.ufl.edu>
> Fecha: martes, 12 de noviembre de 2024, 14:15
> Para: Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud at gmail.com>
> Asunto: RE: [Nhcoll-l] Skeleton preservation
> HI Sergio
> If you don’t mind doing some minor destructive work to the bones, you can always drill the bones with a small bit (using a Dremel or something similar) near the ends and re-soak them in an ammonia solution, that will help release some of the inner oils and fats a little faster.  Just a hole at either end might be sufficient. But its not uncommon for us to have to soak large mammal bones for months to get them satisfactorily degreased.  A 20% or lower solution shouldn’t damage them, I haven’t seen any evidence of that here in our collection. 
>  Best of luck
> Verity
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>   From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Sergio Montagud
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2024 7:23 AM
> To: Kairo Z <hezhu1 at gmail.com>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Skeleton preservation
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> Dear Kairo,
> 
> Thank you for your response. The skeleton is not from a reptile; it’s from an Asiatic lion. The bones appear to be very white and somewhat with  fat (I’ve attached a picture), but the smell is too strong to place them in the preservation room. Currently, all the pieces are outside, waiting for the odor to dissipate. I wonder if there is a product that could eliminate the smell, such as ammonia, but after applying (immersion) it for seven consecutive days, I haven’t achieved good results, and I don’t want to risk degrading the bones with chemicals.
>  Sergio
>   De: Kairo Z <hezhu1 at gmail.com>
> Fecha: viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 17:08
> Para: Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud at gmail.com>
> Asunto: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Skeleton preservation
> Can you take some pictures of them? Snakes in general do not tend to have a lot of fat in the bone. So I'm wondering it may be due to something else like moisture, or a past preparation technique. Is there any staining?
>  On Fri, Nov 8, 2024, 6:06 AM Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good morning,
> This is a query for those working in skeleton preservation. We have some recently acquired, disarticulated specimens prepared by different taxidermists. The issue is that some of them, especially the larger ones, still emit a very unpleasant odor that we haven’t been able to remove, even by soaking them in water with ammonia. Is there an effective and proven method for eliminating this bad smell from the bones, which I assume is caused by residual fat still trapped in them?
> Thank you very much.
> Sergio Montagud
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